Subcontracted Parts / Markings

[Chuckindenver]

heres some of the contractors for 1903 and A3 that i can think of off the tope of my head.
H Hadley tool
RS Roller smith
RP Rochester products.
BP Brown products
HO Hoover
CC commecial controls
OL Onita Ltd
G Gothom steel..
M Milton Bradley.
E American Billiard and Bowling.
K Keystone.
BS Brown and sharpe
8 Accross manufacturing.
S in circle Sedgley, not US, but commonly installed on 1903,s
RIA Rock island.
SA Springfield
R Remington
X Smith Corona
S smith corona extractors.
thats all i can think of off the top of my head, im sure you can think of a few more.
makers of triggers, cocking rods, stocks, handguards, springs, bolts, extractors. front and rear sights. ect..

[Bill Ricca]

BP was Bay Products which produced Bolt Sleeves from 6/43 thru 4/44.

As far as I know HO has not been proven to be Hoover. That is one of those markings from the Supply Bulletin 9-35 that has inaccuracies when dealing with part markings.

[Chuckindenver]

thanks, ill add that to my notes.
i have a Hoover ballbearing box someplace, burried in my junk..
its not a box for bolt bodies, it was for ord, tooling of somesort.
still ya gotta admit, not a bad list for off the top of my head, if i dug out my box O parts, id bet i can find more.
heck, i have Carbine, 1911, BAR, Shotgun, and 03 new bits in the packages still.
nothing fancy, but they are neet. i have enough Remington Rand firing pin stops to choke a small horse, and id bet i have some 20,000 sight windage screws for A3,s
some parts i havent figured out yet, likely 1928SMG parts, as they came with a few parts kits i picked up.
if i find the time, ill look and see if i can find em, maybe you can help figure out what they are.

[Chuckindenver]

just an add, sorry, these arent for sale guys, i figured id through that in, before i get flooded with emails....
in the carbine bits, i have a new in the package flip sight assembly, from an IP carbine, not a repro, new, crispy and nice...im a tease...

[Bill Ricca]

I recommend you never post pictures of the carbine parts in the wrap. With all the fakes going on, somebody will download your picture and use it to sell fakes.

[Chuckindenver]

good idea..if i do, ill make sure to put a logo or something to that effect, accross the picture.
iv been offered stupid money for the flip sight,
most of the stuff i have is pins, springs, ect, nothing fancy, but someday they will be gold.

[John Beard]

BP was Bay Products which produced Bolt Sleeves from 6/43 thru 4/44.

As far as I know HO has not been proven to be Hoover. That is one of those markings from the Supply Bulletin 9-35 that has inaccuracies when dealing with part markings.

Bill,

The "HO" marking on some WWII Springfield bolts is the steel lot code. And I'm reasonably convinced that it does indeed stand for the Hoover Ball and Bearing Co. As I point out in my bolt steel lot code charts, bearing companies have their own steel mills to make the fine high-grade steel required for bearings. I believe that Hoover was given a contract to supply steel forgings for making bolts to Springfield Armory.

I have documentary proof that the "BF" marking on some WWII Springfield bolts identifies the raw forging as having come from the Bonney Forge and Tool Co. Like bearing companies, tool companies also have their own steel mills.

Please note in the foregoing that "HO" and "BF" are steel lot code markings and identify the supplier of the steel to Springfield Armory. These markings were applied by Springfield Armory, NOT Hoover or Bonney Forge. And the forgings they supplied were rough unfinished parts, NOT finished parts.

J.B.