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    Can you imagine what happened to get to the point of actually purchasing the new rifle? It took years, wasted MILLIONS of dollars and in the end countless firearms enthusiasts could have told DND what to build/buy and the saved money would have meant they would virtually have cost NOTHING.

    Tough conditions where they will be used, stainless, common sense. Laminate stock, common sense. Quality engineering, Sako or FN, common sense.

    I'll say it again, they sure look pretty.
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    It's depressing isn't it, I wonder, did anyone take the ultimate common sense approach of actually asking the Rangers what they wanted?

    Out of interest Jim, how many rifles are being procured?

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    It's my understanding that the Rangers will be offered to buy their old No4's once the new rifles are being issued. Of course, us civvies will be SOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    how many rifles are being procured
    Don't know but someone will tell us shortly, there's enough of them on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by army1882 View Post
    It's my understanding that the Rangers will be offered to buy their old No4's once the new rifles are being issued. Of course, us civvies will be SOL.
    If this is the case spread the word amongst the rangers to buy their rifles there is a market to move them onto if they want to doing a community service in the process.

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    if they want to doing a community service in the process.
    These guys aren't really interested in that sort of thing, it doesn't impress them. Many of the rifles won't even remotely be worth anything anyway. Their maintenance and care aren't what you'd expect for the most part. That's kind of a black picture but it's close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    These guys aren't really interested in that sort of thing, it doesn't impress them. Many of the rifles won't even remotely be worth anything anyway. Their maintenance and care aren't what you'd expect for the most part. That's kind of a black picture but it's close.
    Is there a reason the Rangers didn't re-equip with the C1 back in the day Jim, it seems a logical step after all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    the C1
    At the time, they said it would decimate the herds of animals they hunt. Some aren't the conservationists you might think.
    Regards, Jim

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    25 odd years ago I read the Inuit were licensed to take 500 Narwhals a year for their tusks and presumably meat. They shot their 500 alright, but about half of them sank before they could be recovered. This apparently was not perceived as a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    Did Ruger submit a stainless "Scout" job to the trials?

    Made "next door" for a fraction of the price of the Tikka, even if the dollar figure includes a "ten year parts warranty".

    All gun-oil down the bore now, I guess.
    Trust me the Tikka is better than the Ruger. I've worked with several Ruger scout rifles which had bolt binding issues resulting in locking the gun up when operating under stress.

    All that aside, it wouldn't have mattered because Ruger isn't about to authorize Colt to build them, and provide them with the data package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    These guys aren't really interested in that sort of thing, it doesn't impress them. Many of the rifles won't even remotely be worth anything anyway. Their maintenance and care aren't what you'd expect for the most part. That's kind of a black picture but it's close.
    Well usually a red picture rather than black, unless you're talking about the water stained wood.

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