Sniper Ammo Selection

[jmoore]

No windage adjustable sights were ever approved for the P'14 system in goverment usage. Of course there were always the odd experimentals, but they were just that, experiments! By the time any mods could be seriously studied the whole "American" Enfield program was kaput.

Dad gummed fanatsy land the internet is, including half the junk coming out of my head! Check, recheck, verify and then still figure what you know is WRONG. Half the fun is getting proven so.

[Alfred]

No windage adjustable sights were ever approved for the P'14 system in goverment usage. Of course there were always the odd experimentals, but they were just that, experiments! By the time any mods could be seriously studied the whole "American" Enfield program was kaput.

Dad gummed fanatsy land the internet is, including half the junk coming out of my head! Check, recheck, verify and then still figure what you know is WRONG. Half the fun is getting proven so.

Unfortunately much of the misinformation originates not on the net but rather in the reference books collectors rely on to begin with.
A case in point would be the confusion over the "C" marked Lithgow rifles, the claim that these were manufactured by Colt was one repeated in the most respected books on the Lee Enfield for decades before the Net came along.
Fortunately the Pratt & Whitney company has a complete history of it involvement in tooling up and training workmen for Lithgow at Hartford Conneticut, though like as not the factory floor space for the project may have been part of the Colt Armory facilities since these were let out on contract basis, and Colt trained personel staffed Pratt & Whitney from the top to bottom.

I'm still wondering about that threaded rod sticking out of the side of the P-14 sight base. It looks much like the end of the windage adjustment screw of the later BAR sight which was based on the P-14/M1917 sight.

Also we at least established that Fine Adjustment sights were in use at the end of WW1, and the P-14 was considered a sniper rifle even without a scope sight.


Looking into the misinformation I found on the other site did result in my finding out a bit more about the Honorable Mr Freemantle Lord Cottesloe and his contribution to long range bullet design.

In the forward of Reynolds Lee Enfield book its stated that there had been a "slaughter" of MOD records on Enfield Rifle development and manufacture. The difficulty in obtaining a good picture of exactly what went on those many years ago would suggest that theres plenty that hasn't come to light and probably never will.

[jmoore]

Ya, the book thing has gotten me in trouble a few times! I know of only one really reliable book, but sometimes the translations don't live up to the original text even now!

[Alfred]

Ya, the book thing has gotten me in trouble a few times! I know of only one really reliable book, but sometimes the translations don't live up to the original text even now!

I go by the original confession of faith , only authoritative and infalable in original manuscript form in the original lanuage the inspired writer. I think this goes back to 1689. All else is subject to translation error.

[Simon]

Gents,

I'll try my best to explain here how the (F) sight functions.

First of all you need to take note of the three markings on the head of the screw and the line engraved on the top strap of the sight itself. Each of the marks spaced at 120 degrees apart equates to one inch of elevation at one hundred yards.

Now for the technical bit. The standard backsights had a slot milled along the right side to allow the installation of the special screw which is 37 T.P.I. The edge of the slider is then relieved at either side to allow the nose to protrude into the slot and engage with the thread of the screw. Therefore as you rotate the screw the elevation of the backsight changes in relation to the amout of turns. It is still possible to adjust the range quickly as with the standard sight but you now also have the ability to adjust in small accurate increments.

Hope this helps?

Cheers,
Simon.

[jmoore]

A sort of inside out SMLE rear sight that operates in the upright position.

[Bindi2]

Go to Warminster and read the bible. The GODS wrote it and some of the disciples still hang abouut there.

[Enfield trader]

rear sights I had. One Enddystone and one Winchester, sodl the Eddystone but kept the Winchester for my Winchester P-14.

These were made up in England.

I have the plans to make these somewhere but I don't think it is complete.

[Peter Laidler]

As a poor example of an author, it's worth remembering two important thinmgs about writing books and even short articles. The first thing is that NEVER, not EVER take for granted anything thet's been written previously. Two little examples of this are that the Sten fires up and left ....., or right, depending on who you talk to and that the Bren was too accurate. Both myths as it transpires. Myths soon become fact

The second and most important is that the first person who reads what you've written immediately knows more than you. That's because he knows all that you've written PLUS the tiny bit he knew before.

[PrinzEugen]

and that the Bren was too accurate. Both myths as it transpires. Myths soon become fact

I've certainly heard that one many times! I read somewhere that the enfield 7.62 action's weak - but we all know that one's a myth