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    If the '27 is only an inspection date, what happened to the original manufacture date? If it was'nt re-barreled should'nt it still be there? How bout post some pics of the knox form where the '27 is.
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    I had a super "Fat Boy" stocked ERA, with long range sights, it had the number '3' stamped on the receiver. This rifle had never been Weedon repaired or updated. It now belongs to a lucky teacher in Richmond, VA.
    Acording to C.S. Stratton, the '2' on the receiver on a ERA Pattn '14 indicates it has a fourth type receiver, which has to do with a change in the feed ramp.

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    Ok, pictures of the bbl markings along knox form soon to come- in the mean time, check out this-





    This is an M1917 Bolt that has unformately had the bolt face torn asunder or otherwise destroyed- What's curious are the markings- They appear to be USMC (US Marine Corps) and a flaming bomb. I haven't been able to find any other examples; does anyone know what this is?

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    The USMC is for United Shoe Machine Company, IIRC.

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    Ach! So misleading! Haha well atleast I know now. So one assumes they were a subcontractor?

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    I think your assumption is correct. Whats the story on the bolt face?

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    No idea what happened to it- I picked through the huge parts bin at a local, somewhat less-than-reputable pawn shop a while back and ended up with a veritable treasure trove of parts and such for almost nothing, and I mean that. I have surplus rifle parts to guns I don't even own and some that I know are for milsurps but that I have no idea about. It was a great score and so I am now on the look out for such things. I wish it was intact as I have never seen one before and I guess they aren't super common?

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    What does stamping mean?

    On page 2 there are some images of his P14. You will see a stamping on the breech. Sometghing like a crown, GR (Rex) crossed banners with a P underneath.

    I have a P14 (Winchester W125865) that is all matching as far as I can tell with out field stripping it. Mine has the same symbols except for a BM with a circle around it. I am most interested in the meaning of the crossed banners, P and the BM. I know I could make a decent joke out of the BM.

    Mine has the volley sight removed and the gradient sight was cut off. It has a "fat boy stock".. No markings on the stock disc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by m4a3sherman View Post
    Hello all- I am not a P14/M1917 collector by any means (I am a Mauser guy!). However, I do have a P14 Rifle that I had always assumed went through Weedon repair only I cannot find the cartouche that indicates which company so I got to wondering more about the rifle itself. Apart from the marking, which may have simply worn off, I am curious of the date of manufacture. I know that Oldguns.net has a database but it seems to only be for M1917's which would be great if I still had mine. So, is there any way or database that one could use to determine when his P14 was made?

    Thanks!
    Are you looking for any Mausers? I have a Brazilianicon Mauser in 30-06 caliber with all matching numbers including the stock.

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    Post pictures of the rifles and we can help you.

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