Of the 1500 No4 trials rifles converted to snipers

[Warren]

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Found one more that was in the wrong place. The mind is the second thing to go!!
So right now we are up to about 20 plus survivors just on our little group...

The middle one has a leather lace on cheek piece and that is how I got it about 40 years ago...never got around to changing it and cannot remember if the screw holes are in the stock or not.

[teltec01]

Brian, you certainly had a very nice collection, this is an interesting topic.

[Brian B]

Thanks for the kind words. I still have 3 all matching rifles. Kinda wished i had kept them all but I felt I needed to focus on quality and not on quantity. I was able to use the funds from the sale of the No 4 Mk 1 T's to dive head first into the L42A1, Enforcer and L39A1 realm. That has been expensive!!

Thanks,

Brian B

[bigduke6]

Brian at least we know where a small percentage of No4T,s are ..... Nice collection

[Hal O'Peridol]

3rd from the bottom (And no, I have thinned down the collection considerably and only kept the all matching ones)

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_1723-1.jpg

Oh my goodness! I think I have a case of the vapors after that pic!

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I've been able to "ressurect" mine, but I guess id it all just a piece of tat, as Peter calls it, since it is a bitser.

Beech stocked, non matching No32MkI scope via Warren and a futher mismatched bracket via Alan de Enfield.

I'll get a pic or two up later tonight.

[Frederick303]

A question on the No 4 T tirals rifles.

the one I have (badly sported) has the remains of a Trials buttstock with the ID disc. The wood is walnut, while the checkpiece seems to be walnut stained beech (based on grain). Is this common on those rifles? I ask as I have seen on other buttsock inletted for the stock disc (the one I have is so badly sanded as to be beyong saving) and it is beech wood. Were any of the trials rifles stocked in beech? Were any of the trails snpers stocked in beech?

One last point, I seem to recall speaking to a chap who had one of the Indian No 4 T rifles that was built on a Trials action. This rifle had the center bedded metal bit and I think, (but am not sure) the stock had the bolt through the forend. That rifle was stocked in beech, or so the fellow that owned it so described it. The rifle came out of Springfield Sporters in Penn Sun sometime in the late 1990s. I dod nto recall any other detaisl on this rifle of if the buttstock had the stock disc on it.

I have been tempted to restore the No 4 tirals rifle I have, it would be obvious it is a restoration, as the scoep bases are missing and the action was drilled and taped for a convential scope mount by the previous idiot who owned it. He also cut down the wood, shortened the barrel and cute the buttstock to allow installation of a nice recoil pad. But given the impossibility to source correct parts, it seems like making up a fake for some reason.

[Roger Payne]

Used to have 4 trials T's - three 1931's & a 1933. The two less complete 31's I sold/traded (I know where they still are) & the most complete 31 & the 33 I kept.

Frederick, I've seen a few beech butts inletted for the stock disc, but I was pretty sure they'd been done well after original manufacture. IIRC they had seen service in the Middle East & the discs bore farsi markings. All of the unadulterated Trials rifles I've seen were stocked in walnut - I suspect it would have been the preferred wood in the inter-war era when they were made. (But that's just my suspicion).

ATB

[Hal O'Peridol]

OK, here's pics of mine. Started out with just a barreled receiver with some bits still attached. I think I had 120 bux in it.

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[Hal O'Peridol]

And a few with the scope and bracket. When I rebuilt the rifle, I decided to go with used wood, as the rifle would have seen lots of service. Brand new wood on a used rifle showing metal/finish wear looks like crap.

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[bigduke6]

For anyone interested the Rifle I mentioned in post #17, I found the details, the picture below is a pic of a pic form the auction catalogue , the serial number in the catalogue, was A23306, but am sure it was A2306, hard to tell in the pic. scope No 28338 (AK&S)

(And looking at the catalogue and jogging the memory, if anyone has or thinks he has L42 (serial No 3647 and overstamped B119474) then you have the remains of a No4T but certainly not a L42.)