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WarPig1976 Proper hold on Hi Power? 10-09-2014, 03:03 PM
browningautorifle I trained for years with it... 10-09-2014, 03:51 PM
Gil Boyd Rather than spend a lot of... 10-09-2014, 03:57 PM
Peter Laidler At the Small Arms School,... 10-09-2014, 05:38 PM
WarPig1976 Stock grips, it's a Mk3 with... 10-09-2014, 05:49 PM
browningautorifle I wondered...change for a set... 10-09-2014, 05:52 PM
WarPig1976 This is what I'm doing 56839... 10-09-2014, 06:13 PM
browningautorifle I'd try placing the right... 10-09-2014, 07:37 PM
Gil Boyd Now if I was still doing my... 10-10-2014, 04:31 AM
jmoore I'm not much help here, being... 10-10-2014, 05:13 AM
Gil Boyd Meant to also say, when you... 10-10-2014, 08:06 AM
WarPig1976 I'll try your suggested grip... 10-10-2014, 10:41 AM
browningautorifle Those are good, I see you... 10-10-2014, 10:54 AM
WarPig1976 Yup, that's my sons shooting... 10-10-2014, 11:31 AM
Gil Boyd Well that would get the job... 10-10-2014, 12:58 PM
browningautorifle I remember them... 10-10-2014, 03:37 PM
WarPig1976 I Remember siting in front of... 10-10-2014, 07:53 PM
browningautorifle That's not that unusual. ... 10-10-2014, 08:12 PM
WarPig1976 9mm, yes. I'm surprised to... 10-10-2014, 08:34 PM
browningautorifle 568695687056871 Here's the... 10-10-2014, 11:14 PM
WarPig1976 I have the old type. I can... 10-11-2014, 09:54 AM
browningautorifle I took the big paddle off the... 10-11-2014, 11:23 AM
WarPig1976 No, meant did you have the... 10-11-2014, 01:33 PM
browningautorifle I haven't had any problem... 10-11-2014, 03:04 PM
Paul S. There is a spring loaded ball... 10-11-2014, 07:02 PM
browningautorifle That's right Paul. The old... 10-11-2014, 07:30 PM
WarPig1976 I did compare, I have the old... 10-11-2014, 09:14 PM
browningautorifle OK, we'll be watching for the... 10-11-2014, 10:25 PM
Paul S. 56886 I have older (circa... 10-11-2014, 10:36 PM
WarPig1976 That would be interesting to... 10-12-2014, 07:36 AM
Peter Laidler Yep, that's one of the ways... 10-12-2014, 01:20 PM
browningautorifle The pistol has had such a... 10-12-2014, 03:52 PM
Peter Laidler Here Here BAR......... I... 10-12-2014, 04:26 PM
Paul S. Sadly true that - and FN... 10-12-2014, 05:27 PM
Gil Boyd It saddens me to see such an... 10-13-2014, 03:43 AM
Peter Laidler But with Browning, they seem... 10-13-2014, 05:34 PM
browningautorifle Make no mistake, we have Sig... 10-13-2014, 06:40 PM
Paul S. 5694056941569425694356944 ... 10-13-2014, 09:12 PM
Comrade Mike I use the same grip as you... 10-15-2014, 09:11 AM
Paul S. 57280572795727757278 Here... 10-21-2014, 01:53 PM
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    I have the old type. I can see how the new type is a big improvement.

    Hey, did you ever have to change out the trigger lever? I did, trigger wouldn't reset I did the spring too but it was the lever. The thing rounded off and would slip right off the sear lever this is after thousands of rounds so perhaps a regular maintenance thing? just curious.. The only other issue I ever had was steel cased ammo chipped the factory extractor, replaced with an after market no problem.
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    I took the big paddle off the back of the lever so I could remove the firing pin easily. The rest are the same.

    I don't think the new style of slide stop is better. I put the black one in, it's the old type from a JI Hi Power. The chrome one is the new type and that caused the slide to stay open mid mag. The long groove allows it to flop up and down.
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    No, meant did you have the same problem with a rounded trigger lever.
    Gotcha on the release, I was thinking the new wouldn't cause damage but flopping doesn't help!!!

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    I haven't had any problem with the trigger linkage...

    It's the groove on the slide stop that allows flopping. The old one keeps the end down.
    Regards, Jim

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    There is a spring loaded ball in the recoil spring guide that fits into the notch (BAR called it 'groove') that is supposed to keep the slide catch down until the magazine pushes it up. You might check to make sure it is working as it should.

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    That's right Paul. The old one had what was basicly a dent and the new one is more like a long groove. If you look at the pics I posted, the silver one is the new style. That caused the slide stop to engage with a partially full magazine. The old design of a small round impression didn't. I'm wondering if this could be most of his problem. I'm wondering if he'd compare his to the pics and maybe we can iron this out. It's possible it's not his position and hold at all.
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    I did compare, I have the old type release it works as designed.

    I know it's the way I hold the pistol. Going to try new grips to see if I can get a proper grip that's also conducive to my style. Thanks fellas...

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    OK, we'll be watching for the end result...
    Regards, Jim

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    I have older (circa 1985 and earlier) training pams for the L9A1 and can scan the grip pictures if you need them. The Australianicon Army edition depicts a 'cup and saucer' hold while Britishicon Army editions show variations of overlapping hands. Alternately, here is a recent picture of our lads training with the Mark III Browning pistol somewhere arid. Notice that the two nearest the camera have different thumb placements. I will add that how the hands were placed and gripped the pistol (other than an instruction to grip as high as possible) did in fact change over the years adapting to the evolution in the civilian community of what was essentially Fairbairn's instinctive shooting, to Cooper's Modern Technique, and onward.
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    That would be interesting to view, Thanks Paul.

    Pictures worth a thousand words. The posted picture shows what I suspected, that is, keep your support thumb away from the frame.

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