New Canadian Ranger rifle

[mrclark303]

The procurement process in the West (probably most countries) has always been an enormous confidence trick in my opinion, perpetrated by the Military Industrial Complex and woven into various levels of thoroughly complicit Governments and their Civil services.

The primary objective is always to extract the maximum amount of money from the tax payer and to keep that money coming in over the longest possible timeframe.

Providing robust and cost effective defence is definitely of secondary importance in their eyes.

It's interesting to see just how fast gear can be provided when it's desperately needed, here in the UK we use the Urgent Operational Requirements procedure when needed (During Afghanistan Operations for instance), kit can be acquired at best speed, albeit, perhaps not with the long term support needed.

But it does show that gear can be brought into service quickly when the mindset and will is there, probably at a respectable cost too, considering it hasn't been procrastinated over for 10 years first!

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[browningautorifle]

The primary objective is always to extract the maximum amount of money from the tax payer and to keep that money coming in over the longest possible timeframe.

That's correct. Our Mk 3 Combat boot would be an example.

[enfield303t]

Can you imagine what happened to get to the point of actually purchasing the new rifle? It took years, wasted MILLIONS of dollars and in the end countless firearms enthusiasts could have told DND what to build/buy and the saved money would have meant they would virtually have cost NOTHING.

Tough conditions where they will be used, stainless, common sense. Laminate stock, common sense. Quality engineering, Sako or FN, common sense.

I'll say it again, they sure look pretty.

[mrclark303]

It's depressing isn't it, I wonder, did anyone take the ultimate common sense approach of actually asking the Rangers what they wanted?

Out of interest Jim, how many rifles are being procured?

[army1882]

It's my understanding that the Rangers will be offered to buy their old No4's once the new rifles are being issued. Of course, us civvies will be SOL.

[Bindi2]

It's my understanding that the Rangers will be offered to buy their old No4's once the new rifles are being issued. Of course, us civvies will be SOL.

If this is the case spread the word amongst the rangers to buy their rifles there is a market to move them onto if they want to doing a community service in the process.

[browningautorifle]

if they want to doing a community service in the process.

These guys aren't really interested in that sort of thing, it doesn't impress them. Many of the rifles won't even remotely be worth anything anyway. Their maintenance and care aren't what you'd expect for the most part. That's kind of a black picture but it's close.

[mrclark303]

These guys aren't really interested in that sort of thing, it doesn't impress them. Many of the rifles won't even remotely be worth anything anyway. Their maintenance and care aren't what you'd expect for the most part. That's kind of a black picture but it's close.

Is there a reason the Rangers didn't re-equip with the C1 back in the day Jim, it seems a logical step after all?

[browningautorifle]

how many rifles are being procured

Don't know but someone will tell us shortly, there's enough of them on this site.

[Surpmil]

25 odd years ago I read the Inuit were licensed to take 500 Narwhals a year for their tusks and presumably meat. They shot their 500 alright, but about half of them sank before they could be recovered. This apparently was not perceived as a problem.