TheGunMag: "M1 Carbine the Most Versatile Rifle"

[floydthecat]

Yep, the magazine is the weak link. If nothing else for it’s flimsy construction. I have been sort of looking looking for somebody that does 3D printing. I will even settle for knowing somebody, that knows somebody that knows somebody who can 3D print. What I want to do with a magazine may not even be 3D print feasible, but I won’t know until I ask.

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[EddieM]

Yep, the magazine is the weak link. If nothing else for it’s flimsy construction. I have been sort of looking looking for somebody that does 3D printing. I will even settle for knowing somebody, that knows somebody that knows somebody who can 3D print. What I want to do with a magazine may not even be 3D print feasible, but I won’t know until I ask.

Hello
would you share if you find the 3D mag, please?
Regards

[painter777]

I have been sort of looking looking for somebody that does 3D printing.

Floyd,

While doing a google search: '3d printed m1 carbine magazine'
I stumbled on a number of files that were shared and this video:



This article mentions 3D Hubs a company that helps you find those individuals or small businesses near you that can make whatever you want.
How to 3D Print Anything (Even If You Dont Own a 3D Printer)

FWIW

[eb in oregon]

Nah Painter, I'll stick with my steel magazines, import or not, as all have worked splendidly for many years.

[painter777]

Nah Painter,

@ Eb,
I'm not sure what Floyd has in mind, but do know he's a 'Slick Cat'.
I don't know much about 3D printing and didn't realize things can be made from more than plastic until I read a little about it and looked at files/plans.
I did see shared plans for Carbine mag block inserts that will fill a 15 down to a capacity of 10 or 5.
Also seen Mag plans for the Crosman BB Carbines, which are often missing.
No idea how expensive something printed for you would cost

I had a good friend that could have used some bullets made up for his over size cut away trainers. We looked for years and never could find extras so he'd have enough for display.

But I agree about steel, I have more mags still wrapped than I'll use in my lifetime.

Safe Weekend,

[floydthecat]

Floyd,

While doing a google search: '3d printed m1 carbine magazine'
I stumbled on a number of files that were shared and this video:



This article mentions 3D Hubs a company that helps you find those individuals or small businesses near you that can make whatever you want.
How to 3D Print Anything (Even If You Dont Own a 3D Printer)

FWIW

Thanks for the info Charlie. One can find horror stories about feed issues anywhere on any forum and the culprit is usually the magazine. I have discovered that a certain polymer magazine will feed any projectile profile that will fit in it. I believe the magazines were probably injection molded, but in todays world could possibly be 3D printed in metal and the capacity increased at the same time. Single-stack, more durable, impervious to rust and corrosion and no feed lips to monkey with.

I have a childish inventive mind trapped in a 74-year old body.

[DaveHH]

After reading everything ever written by SLA Marshall, my opinion on the carbine in combat is all about how it did in Korea. It wasn't about freezing, or weak hitting power, it was about running out of ammunition in 10 minutes. There were stories of guys going out on patrol with 60 rounds as a basic load. Take that and have it in the hands of a scared to death kid with an M2 switch and those 60 rounds are gone in minutes. Because the carbine could not be replenished off stripper clips like say the M14 can today, the problem compounds. I've got 5 empty magazines and to refill them and put me back into the fight, I have to either hunt for that 50 round box I know that I have somewhere and put them in one at a time. Wait, there are 10 round stripper clips. But I need the little kit that comes with the bandoleer where is that little tool from the bandoleer? In Vietnam I had a full automatic M14. In the truck I would carry a laundry bag full of 20 rd magazines 15 or more. That's the answer to ammunition problems. The carbine just wasn't planned as a high volume shooter but they made it one anyway. Marines in WW2 made it work because it wasn't full auto and they were Marines, they ate and slept rifle accuracy and management.

Re gas piston cleaning: I actually took out the piston on my Winchester and it and the cylinder looked brand new and squeaky clean. A total waste of time. Staking also purposely damages threads to keep a nut from coming loose. When you override the staked/damaged threads you are looking for trouble. I put my Winchester back together by moving the nut back and forth like a tap would be used to avoid a cross thread. I'd advise anyone else making this mistake to do the same. I believe that the threads are more of a pipe thread than machined thread, they cut their way through problem areas making them candidates for damaging more than what's already been done.

[M94/14]

[QUOTE=DaveHH;506739] But I need the little kit that comes with the bandoleer where is that little tool from the bandoleer?


If you're referring to the stripper clip guide that fits over the back of the mag when charging it, it's attached to the clips themselves, at least it is on all the ones I have...

[Wineman]

Sorry, that work thing had me going for a few days. The old story of "Jack of all trades, Master at none" is what I was thinking. The fully auto M2 Carbine with the A1 stock is probably as close as we will get to a sub gun as you get. Was it as good as an M3?, Sten, Owen, MP40, PPsh? Wooden stock, long barrel, muzzle flash, lots of lightweight parts. The stories of Japanese who captured M1 Carbines, could not believe that every Marine could have one. Once WW2 started, there were precious few items produced that were truly awful. We can agree to disagree on the merits/faults of Sherman Tanks, SB2c Helldivers, B-17's (I'm a fan of all but each had issues, and more numbers was not one of them). The M1 Carbine is no different. The M1911 pistol it was supposed to replace stayed in service for another 60 years and is still being produced in some form or another today, going strong at 110 years. The 45 ACP is not dead either, 45 sub-guns not so much.

Even today you can find Carbine magazines in the original wrap. They were not made to last 80 years, probably not made to last 5 years. Throw it away and get a new one because there were plenty.

I'm a fan of Jack Nicholson and in a Few Good Men he said "have you ever put your life in another man's hands?" (paraphrasing here). Well for me if I had to put my life in a company's hands it is Remington, Winchester or Federal. No particular order. Carry what you want, but my choice is 110 SP's from any of these companies. If you fire a few hundred of your favorite and no issues, have at it. None of the big 3 have ever let me down.

I love M1 Carbines, but like most things, there are compromises and as I said the farther you get from pistol replacement for REMF's the more complaints you get.

If the M1 Carbine development had continued as did the AR15/M16 we may have a different story. A tweak here, a correction there, you had essentially the same rifle in 1968 as you did on 1942.

Deer under 100 yards, look out.

Dave

[DaveHH]

Hi Johnny, I got exactly what you were saying, and you are completely correct. I mention this problem because of what I read in SLAM's writing ( "Pork Chop Hill" "The River and the Gauntlet" etc.) on Korea. My comments are just aimed at the carbine as a full automatic weapon.