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    Aren't the Highland projies (Now unobtainium in Aus) open based BT's and are they not loaded into the PPU ammo!
    About 4 years ago I lucked onto 400 odd Highland projies and snapped them up bit like the Taipans as well got 300 of those more for posterity.
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    Was the Mkv1 not a FMJ with an open base. I know the Indian DUM DUM had exposed lead tips but did it have an open base. I dont have any in my collection to examine.
    The open base is the key here. I do have some Mkv1 i acquired in Englandicon made by an unknown person ( not factory ) to me. They were bought for a particular purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bindi2 View Post
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    Was the Mkv1 not a FMJ with an open base. I know the Indian DUM DUM had exposed lead tips but did it have an open base. I dont have any in my collection to examine.
    The open base is the key here. I do have some Mkv1 i acquired in Englandicon made by an unknown person ( not factory ) to me. They were bought for a particular purpose.

    I don't have any MkVI information, but for interest, the 'original' MkVII was actually a 160gr bullet,

    I cannot find where I got this info from - so apologies to the author for not acknowledging them.

    The original .303" MkVII bt weighed 160 gr and was approved in Mar 1910 and had no cannelure. Production lots of this ammo failed accuracy proof and the bt was redesigned.
    The new bt retained the exterior dimensions of the above but the aluminum core tip was shortened and the lead lengthened. The new bt weighed 174 gr and was approved LOC 15629 Oct 1910.
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    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Very interesting info MrClark. I called every barrel maker in Canadaicon at one point and there was no one left working in chrome-moly steel: all gone to stainless for ease of working and customer preference.

    If 5 groove is inherently more accurate than 4 one would wonder why the Russians stuck with it? Perhaps they concluded the "crushing" effect equalized when even numbers of equidistant lands were used? The Ross Mk.II used 4 groove and certainly lacked nothing for accuracy as results at Bisley showed, and so did the Mk.III.

    I would have to wonder why it was thought necessary to produce a new rifling form to test some Russianicon ammunition?

    What were the radii at the "corners" of the lands exactly? The concept makes sense theoretically in terms of gas-seal and ease of cleaning etc.
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    Being the prophet of doom, as we are all not getting any younger, what happens when Peter Sarony retires..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by David TS View Post
    Being the prophet of doom, as we are all not getting any younger, what happens when Peter Sarony retires..........
    One would hope he has an under-study to take over.
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    I was shooting along a chap the other day with a No4, re barreled with a Armalon barrel, it was a great shooter I have to say....

    As the price of No4's keeps climbing now as original shooting grade barrels become harder bto find, it's certainly an increasing attractive proposition for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    I was shooting along a chap the other day with a No4, re barreled with a Armalon barrel, it was a great shooter I have to say....

    As the price of No4's keeps climbing now as original shooting grade barrels become harder bto find, it's certainly an increasing attractive proposition for me.

    But it is only 'all original' once !
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    True mate, but if you want to keep the rifle and keep it as original as possible, then this is the option...
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