1907 Hook Quillon Bayonet find

[browningautorifle]

you wouldn't bother with all that welding palava

That's EXACTLY what's done Peter, they weld a long cock down below and reshape it. Usually it's the wrong shape material to start with.

[Flying10uk]

Jim, have you or any-one else got any pictures on file of a hooked quillon that you know has had the hook welded on, please, that you could share with us to give us a better idea? All the dozen or so 1907s which I have are non hookers. Part of the problem is when the 1907 has had the hook originally, been cut off but then welded back on again, about 90 years later. The bayonet itself is correct it's just determining whether or not the hook has ever been removed.

[browningautorifle]

got any pictures on file of a hooked quillon that you know has had the hook welded on,

No sir, I'm sorry to say. Most don't have the facility to blue after and of course it would look odd. They look poor by comparison, and I do mean the one RCS shows, I believe Nigel's to be correct too. There are actually many here that have them... No pics though sorry. They were just easy to pick out. The real ones look good. The small lines discussed on RCS' are from over 100 years of duty.

[Peter Laidler]

If you want to make one for show Flying 10, just take the crosspiece off, use that as a template for the new one, extend the hook bit to suit a scaled up photo (I used the Skennerton bayonet book) and bobs your uncle. I'll send you the X-piece I took off my practice sample this afternoon and the extension template I cut out. No CAD just simple 1st year bench fitting courtesy of my apprentice days at Carlisle!

Not there to fool anyone, just done to prove a simple point. It is basic mild steel too. Shame the bayonet I used was scrap!

If you need to a tad more forensic than that, then I'm not a good example to follow. But where there's a will, there's an easy way.

[Flying10uk]

Thank-you Jim and Peter for that and also for sending me the bits you mention above, Peter. The other point worth considering, that hasn't been mentioned, when deciding whether or not to actually purchase a militaria item is actually who you are buying from. Personally, I tend not to buy from that many dealers but like to build up a first name relationship with dealers I trust. As far as I know I haven't had many bad buys apart from the odd few like everyone.

[browningautorifle]

It is basic mild steel too.

Yes they are. That way easy to straighten. The extensions are just mild stuff and filed to shape. They shouldn't be quite round...(the quillion)

[RCS]

A few more hook photos from my Wilkinson as shown in post #9Attachment 74037Attachment 74038

[mike1967]

And a very nice Wilkinson it is!

[RobD]

And here's one for sale... at $2500.
British P-1907 First Model Hooked Quillon Bayonet Earliest Scabbard ima-usa.com

[bigduke6]

They havent reached the dizzy height of that price yet in the UK, speaking to a dealer at the International he said an excellent condition unit marked hookie would now fetch around £1000.....