EBay - New "Military Items Policy"

[PrinzEugen]

See the enfield 'box'es [otherwise known as 303 magazines] put up on ebay - 75 on a multiple item auction at £75 a pop - I would have thought you'd have to stick an item like that (ie a completely prohibited item) on a very short auction or buy it now.

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[villiers]

German site:

http://www.egun.de/market/browse.php

is getting to be very popular all over Europe (but you´ve got to be able to deal with basic German)

[Claven2]

FWIW, it seems the policy specifically cites ITAR. This is a very specific Regulation in the states and affects the sale primarily of current US Military gear and stuff useable by unfriendly nations against US troops like night vision, nuclear proliferation items, etc.

It would also apply, for example, to an M14 Sage EBR stock or a Trijicon TA01-NSN gun site.

ITAR would not, for example, apply to M1 garand parts.

[Dimitri]

ITAR would not, for example, apply to M1 garand parts.

It applies to single shot 22LR rifles, the US State Department has not made it a restricted firearm needing paperwork no matter the value.

Hence part limits for firearms that are not on the list. For example the M16/M4 are restricted models due to they are fully automatic as is the M14. However the commercial AR-15 is listed as restricted but the M1A is not.

Dimitri

[Brian Dick]

Claven, ITAR applies to all gun parts except woodwork here in the USA. It especially applies to U.S. military gun parts including M1 Garand parts. Certain telescopes like the Trijicon ACOG and others in current U.S. and NATO military use are not exportable at all unless they are going to a police or military end-user with the required documentation. Brian

[blu 97]

It's just a game man

[spinecracker]

Not if you just can't get the last part you need to finish your restoration project - then it is one big pain in the bottom lol

[Brian Dick]

It's an expensive game if you get caught. Look at the cases that have been prosecuted on the Dept. of Commerce website. Ask Thompson Center Arms and Smith & Wesson. They're just one case. Take a hard look at the fines imposed. Not much fun for a game. 'Nuff said.

[CaptainFinn]

And yet, last week, I was on Ebay looking for a beater Krag rifle stock and found a listing for 'Krag rifle front sight with attached part'.

Yeah, it was a 'attached part' all right. A COMPLETE barrelled receiver was attached to the 'front sight' that the guy was selling. (An aftermarket ramped front sight, BTW).

The only thing more puzzling then Ebay's draconian 'gun parts' policy is their inconsistant enforcement of said policy.....

[RJW NZ]

And yet, last week, I was on Ebay looking for a beater Krag rifle stock and found a listing for 'Krag rifle front sight with attached part'.

Yeah, it was a 'attached part' all right. A COMPLETE barrelled receiver was attached to the 'front sight' that the guy was selling. (An aftermarket ramped front sight, BTW).

The only thing more puzzling then Ebay's draconian 'gun parts' policy is their inconsistant enforcement of said policy.....

This comes from the way their enforcement software works; it scans for keywords like magazine, bolt, trigger, trigger part etc, and alerts a human operator, who inspects the listing. Thats how a magazine can get away with being called an enfield box, it'll go under the radar until someone either dobs them in, or a random inspection by ebay staff spots it.
Likewise enfield boltheads are technically against the rules, as being a crucial part of the firing mechanism, but they don't know the word for it, and seeing the creatively correct phrase 'enfield clearance adjuster', recently from a seller, just might work for some time to come.
Chin up chaps, its all a good excuse to patronize the likes of gunbroker more, who have really stepped into the gaps left by ebay.