8mm & .303 ammo new/surplus observations

[K31]

I shot some 8z through my No.5, I'm glad I wasn't using the shooting bench! It was Yugo ammo, and if I recall correctly, the bullet was something like 192gr? I wrote down the info after I pulled the bullet, but I can't find it anymore. It came in little 15 round boxes.

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[Richard47]

All the 303 hangfires. But it's simple to pull the bullets and stick into new cases with 35gr of 4895. I get nice accuracy. The primer is the problem. Unforunately there is no way to reload the cordite in another cartridge.

The 174gr bullets are interesting. Under the jacket, there is WOOD in the point, and lead behind. It gives the bullet a better balance, apparently.

[K31]

The wood point makes the bullet tumble when it strikes the enemy. The .303 bullet that killed The Red Baron exited sideways, so it must work! Most bullets that I've examined had an aluminium point.

[SGRAVESOK]

I have a No. 4 and it had way too much headspace when I first got it. It literally pulled new S & B cases apart. My gunsnmith got me a longer extractor head and problem solved. I primarily shoot neck sized reloads, but still have some of the P O F (Pakistani) suprlus left. It shoots (usually) on first strike & isn't very accurate.

[David1974]

How where K98's zero'd? Something I've noticed right from the start was all my k98's shoot high. My best shooter the ce41 consistantly groups nice and tight, but it's always 6-7 inches high at 100 meters. Is it the ammo?

And yes the sight is set to 100m

[Stevo]

How where K98's zero'd? Something I've noticed right from the start was all my k98's shoot high. My best shooter the ce41 consistantly groups nice and tight, but it's always 6-7 inches high at 100 meters. Is it the ammo?

And yes the sight is set to 100m

What type of ammo are you shooting through it?

[David1974]

Right now I am using S&B 196gr FMJ

[Sergeant Possum]

Anyone ever try the US milsurp 303 made by Winchester-Western in 1981? I bought a 400 round can of the stuff a few years ago, and am not terribly impressed with its' accuracy. The best I could get out of my Savage No.4 was a 2 3/4 inch group at 50 yards. I'm sure that the rifle should shoot better than that. The ammo can that the stuff came in is marked, "400 ROUNDS / .303 BALL / CONTRACT WCC-81-008". The cartridges are headstamped "WCC 81 / 303".
By the way, the rifle has a very strange sight on it. The sight resembles the regular milled micrometer sight found on many No.4s, but has no sighting aperture for use when the sight in in the horizontal position. Also, the aperture used when the sight is vertical has an insert that screws in with an eye-piece about the size of a nickel, with a variable aperture in it that gives the shooter a very fine picture of the front sight and target. The sight has the elevation screw on top and a windage screw on the right side. The only mark on the sight is an "F" on the elevation screw. Can anyone tell me more about this sight?

[csmarcher]

Range report from here in California on various lots of .303:

Weapon Bren MkI Semi-Auto from Wise Lite Arms,

Batch 1: POF 1967. In a word , Utter Crap !!! Hang fires, case head seperations, ripping the base off of the cartridge. Awful Stuff, avoid at all costs, give it away, pull the bullets and just get rid of it. BAD BAD BAD.

Batch 2: HXP Greek 70's production. Excellent, no problems, ran well. 2 partial base seperations, possibly due to the gas system being open too high. Turned gas down, all seemed fine. 250 rounds, almost all hit the gong at 200meters to the astonishment of the belt feed guys !! If anything the Bren on the tripod is just too accurate. No zone of disbursement.

End of test.

Gary