Lake City 59 ammo.

[painter777]

Chinese Mfg / Berdan Primed
Note:
Compare Head stamp markings closely.
Wider Ejector Groove on Chinese Copy.

[Low & Slow]

Ran into a bit of this Chinese carbine ammo before import of it was banned here. Figured they'd just copied the head stamp off of what they picked up without researching it's actual significance.

[Matt_X]

Since your bringing this up, there are current sellers advertising the Chinese LC 52 for sale as real Lake City 52.

Fortunately the seller shows the box., which removes all doubt.
LAKE CITY .30 CARBINE FREE SHIPPING on orders over $250 | Maryland Munitions | Finksburg | 21048

and also some advertized on GB recently reported https://www.gunbroker.com/item/966624075

LC 52 - The Carbine Collector's Club - Page 2

[painter777]

Ran into a bit of this Chinese carbine ammo before import of it was banned here

There is still plenty of it still around.
Here's that Article link: https://www.oldammo.com/march06.htm

Here currently listed on GB is a load of Chinese LC 52. 750 rds, 5 days to go, currently setting at $438.33. Add $40.00 to ship and tax on final total. Currently about 7 bidders.
Probably more listings out there I just stumbled on this one.
****Note the markings on the box, Wide Ejector groove and stapled boxes like mentioned in the article.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/970304636

[painter777]

Matt,
You hadn't posted when I started. Guess I'm also a Loooonnnggg winded typer. It did take me a while to find the pics I'd just loaded from the auction

[Matt_X]

Don't hit your head Charlie! Its good to have those auction photos saved and posted here. Worth the extra time.

[painter777]

Matt,
I stuck them in the last file I had opened, the one I stuck the picture of my Nephew and Ian in. When I go to 'Save a Image' it opens the last file I had open on it's own. I was looking in my 'M1 Carbine Parts' file, my biggest file. Even bigger now, since I added copies of the above pics to it.
Agree though, good to have the pics. Still miss those we lost here.

[USGI]

The reason I brought up this old thread a few days ago is because I had just found that link in Charlie's old thread showing the "cut-a-way case." I knew that Jim (BAR) would be interested because there had been talk of "one flash hole" cases earlier in this thread. When my oldest brother got his CMP Inland in 2007 (under $500) he picked up several boxes of the "Chinese" ammo near his location in CA. For the next 6-7 years he came up every summer and we shot the heck out of our Carbines together.

I rummaged around and found that I still had at least one of his empty boxes and had just one empty shell case - which I had shown here several years ago. I had planned to try getting that primer out and inspect the case, but found it has two flash holes - don't know if it would be like the one in that link or not? The article talked about "two holes" but his cutaway doesn't really show that. I still may try to remove the primer, but busy with "other things" right now. If I do, I'm going to try putting a bullet in the case (on top of some oil or grease) and then pressing the bullet down with the case in a shell holder - maybe will just try the vise instead of the hydraulic press.

Charlie, that looks more like an extractor groove than one for an ejector! I've caught myself doing that same thing - also hate Windows putting things in the same folder as last time, but sometimes that can be helpful. I've been careful lately to add a recognizable name to files before saving, so I can find find them a bit easier when that happens.

FYI, the empty "Chinese" box I have doesn't have a bunch of staples in it. Makes me wonder if these are in production again? - since even the supply of Korean surplus carbine ammo seems to be drying up or being hoarded like the USGI stuff a lot of us are hanging onto.

Will attach some pictures from about 12 years ago. Did you guys see where that article made a challenge for someone to try removing one of the primers? I'd like to get one out just to see if they're the same size as our small rifle primers. I know the Wolf/Tula uses quite a bit larger ones. - Bob

[browningautorifle]

Did you guys see where that article made a challenge for someone to try removing one of the primers?

How about that little can opener type tool they show removing berdan primers? Yes, I'm interested in these mysterious cases.

If you pulled a bullet from a live case you could pour out the powder and use a torch to fire the primer, it would blow out clear and you could see for sure.

[USGI]

Maybe the primer on this one of mine will come right out? Never knew about the stuff marked 59 (some 60's ?) until I found this thread! - Bob