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    Those were the good guys I was referring to
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    I read this morning that the police knew about him and did nothing. Much the same as the deranged kid that shot up the Parkland High School in Florida a few years ago. Canadaicon needs to adopt a good healthy dose of American style civil disobedience should these gun bans come to pass. The anti-gun argument is so old, tired and has been proven over and over to be flat out wrong.

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    According to CTV, the gunman was not permitted to have any type of weapon from crossbows to firearms due to a rage incident years earlier. The weapons while not identified were said to be most likely unlicensed which I need a Canadianicon to explain what that means. I'm assuming it means they are not registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    were said to be most likely unlicensed which I need a Canadianicon to explain
    We need a possession and acquisition licence to purchase, possess, buy-sell-trade, or purchase ammo. You need a course before you can get one unless you were there in the beginning when we just went to the police station and got it. That was 1978. Now without a licence, you're an unlicensed guy... Any handguns that are unregistered are called unregistered and therefore prohibited by law. Not to be confused with the prohibited classes some of us have which means others without that class on their PAL can't buy or own them.
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    In the Bush years I held a concealed carry permit valid in 40 US states issued through the Iowa Bureau of Justice , went through the course fingerprinting and all .That expired in the first Obama term and was rejected when I replied for renewal. We don't have concealed or open carry here so no good guys with guns unless you shoot an intruder threatening your family within the home and even then you will be arrested and dragged through the legal process.

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    Followup question on the licensing of firearms or owners. I understand that owners must be licensed but isn't it also true that firearms of at least specific types must be registered? I ask specifically because I visit Nambu world on a regular basis and I believe it is a Canadianicon based site and they are always mentioning they know exactly how many of such and such handgun is in Canadian hands.

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    Handguns are in two seperate classes, those with barrel lengths over 4" are classed as restricted and can be purchased by anyone who holds a valid PAL ( possession and acquisition licence) that has also completed the restricted portion of the Canadianicon firearms training course Handguns with barrel lengths under 4" or in calibers 22 rimfire, .25 .32 centrefire became classed as prohibited around 1998 and only persons with what is referred to as 12-6 status can own, buy or trade these prohibited pistols. The exception being in the event of a prohib owners death they can be passed down. Full automatics became prohibited on January 1st 1978 and only owners at the time can still possess them, these to the best of my knowledge can not be passed down after the current owners death. There is a whole different class for guns converted from FA to SA that I don't fully understand but as an example I bought 68 guns from an estate last year but there were 2 I couldn't own a FA 1928 Thompson and an FNC1 converted from FA to SA. I contacted a friend who now ons some of the FA's I disposed of in 1977 and he purchased the Thompson but could not own the FA FN converted from FA to SA. Because he is also a registered Canadian Dealer he was able to have the FN in his inventory with a letter from the executer. Go figure that one out! Because our gun laws were written by bureaucrats that have the collective intelligence of a bag of hammers when it comes to guns we have laws that only a lawyer can navigate.

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    There is a distinct paucity of information being released by the RCMP concerning this atrocity, no doubt believing "he who controls the information controls the history". While surfing to find information, I came up with this article in the Toronto Sun by Brian Lilley:

    LILLEY: PM using Nova Scotia massacre to push misguided rifle ban agenda | Toronto Sun
    Some do, some don't; some will, some won't; I might ...

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    I don't expect much from the current clown running the Country. I sent him a letter recently reminding him he had promised to make legislation" based on facts", I received a letter from his staff stating that gun legislation was not part of the PM's purview and my letter had been forwarded to the minister of public safety and emergency preparedness, from him CRICKETS. I wonder where they will get the monies for the proposed buyback scheme? At the current rate of spending for give away programs during the Covide Crisis I don't see any funds for such a program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1oilman View Post
    I don't expect much from the current clown running the Country. I sent him a letter recently reminding him he had promised to make legislation" based on facts", I received a letter from his staff stating that gun legislation was not part of the PM's purview and my letter had been forwarded to the minister of public safety and emergency preparedness, from him CRICKETS. I wonder where they will get the monies for the proposed buyback scheme? At the current rate of spending for give away programs during the Covide Crisis I don't see any funds for such a program.
    Yes a terrible tragedy and why the RCMP didn't initiate the "amber alert" is beyond all logic, some bureaucratic heads should roll for that blunder, but unfortunately in this new age we live in, the idea of somebody actually taking responsibility for their own actions........well...... "get the broom out and sweep it under the carpet". A firearm used in self defense in this country is liable to get you in a whole pile of trouble with the law, we as citizens are told that's why we have the RCMP and regional police forces, finally after what was it...... "18hrs". More often than not, home owners that do defend their life using a firearm are usually treated with greater hostility than the perpetrator of the crime.

    Yes the little man from Quebec, "our fearless leader" that emerges from his cuckoo clock every morning to momentarily cuckoo about Covid 19 will seize the opportunity relentlessly to punish legal law abiding gun owners with a new round of arbitrary gun laws, of coarse in the name of "public safety". If this current gov't that makes "knee jerk decisions" is serious about saving lives then the same logic should be applied to reinstate alcohol prohibition laws....think of all the lives that would be saved annually from drunk driving. What about the costs to our health care system let alone the social misery alcohol has caused on and off our First Nations reserves.

    As far as the monies go that's no problem.....the Central Bank will just fire up the printing press and further devalue our currency......sometimes I think the Cuckoo bird is spending our country away into the stratosphere purposely to further his global quest. I don't see that changing any time soon as the upcoming generation are by and large a bunch of entitlements and look to the gov't to solve all their problems, sorry to say I think we are stuck with "birdbrain" for some time yet.

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