Wolff gunsprings

[USGI]

No "fine print" searching from me tonight - I actually worked outside all day and my butt's dragging! I did look at the Wolff site earlier, and also at some archived threads on the CMP forums. DaveHH had some good comments in a couple of them about the Wolff springs. I'll attach the links if I can find them again. - Bob

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=77305

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=210382

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=148535

[EddieM]

No "fine print" searching from me tonight - I actually worked outside all day and my butt's dragging! I did look at the Wolff site earlier, and also at some archived threads on the CMP forums. DaveHH had some good comments in a couple of them about the Wolff springs. I'll attach the links if I can find them again. - Bob

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=77305

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=210382

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=148535

Thank you Bob
Eddie

[DaveHH]

“If it ain’t broke don’t fix it”......a timeless piece of advice that never goes out of style.

Here's the other one: when tightening a steel bolt in an aluminum part, remember, aluminum always loses. It is remarkable how many so called Mechanics never even consider this. And the results of their stupidity are never seen when it occurs, the threads come out when the next poor soul tries to remove that steel bolt. The damage is severe and usually fatal. Stripped oil pans, transmission oil plugs, spark plugs etc.

[DaveHH]

My experience with Wolf springs: They arrive in a plastic bag with no identification, it is your puzzle to solve. The springs are just a bag full of available commercial springs that are "Close enough" to maybe work. I took my time and carefully looked at each spring in the kit, None except the recoil slide spring looked correct. I used that one spring and it functioned OK, I considered all of the other springs to be unacceptable. If we were in a SHTF situation where no genuine springs were available, then you would use anything you could get....that is what these spring assortments are. Wolf acts like the springs are carefully selected and tested in their lab by little German scientists. They are probably not. They are just a bag of springs made by someone else that might work. I have used their striker spring for my 98K because it is stronger and firing 70 year old surplus ammunition needs all of the help it can get. Interesting is that both of my originals a Winchester and an Inland have all of their original 1944 springs in place and both function fine. This shows you what quality looks like. The Army stuff is far superior to any common commercial spring. Same thing with WW2 1911 mag springs.

[browningautorifle]

The springs are just a bag full of available commercial springs that are "Close enough" to maybe work

They changed the dynamics of an AR15 M-forgery to the point it wasn't reliable.

[72 usmc]

I have always used new Wolf springs, but in Mausers, Tokarevs, and USGI 45 autos. The trick is to select the same power spring for the application. They generally have 3 to 4 options. On my K98s and Turk mausers I up the the spring pressure for old Turk and Yugo 1950s surplus garbage ammo. On Toks, I use the standard rebuild kit. On a 45 I up the pressure on the spring. They have the same postage for one or 6 springs. So to make it worth while I get a normal and higher power spring for my rifles as spares to have around. To make shipping free or less for just one spring, some sell individual springs on Flee bay. Wolf springs are high quality, but some springs are better switched as a rebuild kit rather than just one. I have never replaced one in a USGI carbine. I have never needed to replace an Enfield, or Mosin spring. Those just sit in my box.

If you can find USGI in the package, original, given what I said , That is what I would use on a $1500 M1 Carbine.

[EddieM]

My experience with Wolf springs: They arrive in a plastic bag with no identification, it is your puzzle to solve. The springs are just a bag full of available commercial springs that are "Close enough" to maybe work. I took my time and carefully looked at each spring in the kit, None except the recoil slide spring looked correct. I used that one spring and it functioned OK, I considered all of the other springs to be unacceptable. If we were in a SHTF situation where no genuine springs were available, then you would use anything you could get....that is what these spring assortments are. Wolf acts like the springs are carefully selected and tested in their lab by little German scientists. They are probably not. They are just a bag of springs made by someone else that might work. I have used their striker spring for my 98K because it is stronger and firing 70 year old surplus ammunition needs all of the help it can get. Interesting is that both of my originals a Winchester and an Inland have all of their original 1944 springs in place and both function fine. This shows you what quality looks like. The Army stuff is far superior to any common commercial spring. Same thing with WW2 1911 mag springs.

Hello Dave,

Thank you for share about your Wollfs.
I agree with you about mil-spec quality, it's beyond Vs commercials.
Would you share how do you keep your springs in optimal conditions?
Eddie

[EddieM]

They changed the dynamics of an AR15 M-forgery to the point it wasn't reliable.

Hello Jim
Changed dynamics is unacceptable
Eddie

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I have always used new Wolf springs, but in Mausers, Tokarevs, and USGI 45 autos. The trick is to select the same power spring for the application. They generally have 3 to 4 options. On my K98s and Turk mausers I up the the spring pressure for old Turk and Yugo 1950s surplus garbage ammo. On Toks, I use the standard rebuild kit. On a 45 I up the pressure on the spring. They have the same postage for one or 6 springs. So to make it worth while I get a normal and higher power spring for my rifles as spares to have around. To make shipping free or less for just one spring, some sell individual springs on Flee bay. Wolf springs are high quality, but some springs are better switched as a rebuild kit rather than just one. I have never replaced one in a USGI carbine. I have never needed to replace an Enfield, or Mosin spring. Those just sit in my box.

If you can find USGI in the package, original, given what I said , That is what I would use on a $1500 M1 Carbine.

Thanks for share 72usmc,
Which is your M1 carbine maker?
Eddie

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