Hunting with Milsurps- 2012 Edition

[Aragorn243]

I'm surprised the didn't all bust loose when the camera clicked. I used to have a lot of fun with turkeys but haven't ventured out after them in years. We don't have any near where I live at present and where I used to hunt them up home it's mostly posted now.

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I'm surprised the didn't all bust loose when the camera clicked.

I started taking my camera to the woods last year and wondered how folks got the close up pictures without the game spooking when the camera clicked. Then I discovered digital cameras "click" is a menu selectable sound that can be turned off. No shutter on a digital camera,no noise.

[lude92]

yea i walk thru the woods with the best battle implement ever devised because if it could do the job to take out people than i'm sure it will do good with deer

[Aragorn243]

yea i walk thru the woods with the best battle implement ever devised because if it could do the job to take out people than i'm sure it will do good with deer

Not exactly. A modern battle rifle is designed to wound, not kill believe it or not. You kill an enemy, you take out one man, you wound an enemy, you take out two or three. The one you wound and those that have to take him to the rear. Then there are the men who must care for him, the resources needed to heal him. Now obviously that tactic only works when the enemy you are fighting cares about the soldiers in its army. If the idea was specifically to kill, the Geneva Conventions wouldn't prohibit expanding bullets.

I personally would not recommend a 223/5.56 as a deer rifle. I know a lot of guys swear by them but I consider it to be too light a caliber for anyone but a very good shot. From personal experience, I know a LOT of guys going into the deer woods are not very good shots. If you are a good shot, can make sound decisions on shot placement, quite possibly the perfect rifle for deer. It's not going to tear up a lot of meat and obviously has the power to take down a deer sized animal. If I could legally hunt deer with mine, I probably would, it is a very handy, nice little rifle and very accurate. We may not use semi-automatic rifles in my state.

The biggest pet peeve I have is these guys that take Model 94 Winchesters in 357 magnum out hunting thinking its a super long range deer rifle. I ended up tracking a wounded deer three years in a row that was shot by one of these knuckleheads. He didn't understand the capabilities and limitations of the rifle and he was probably a very lousy shot. A guy hunting with a 357 handgun knows the limitations and hunts accordingly. Just because it's in a rifle, doesn't extend it's range all that much. The whole time I was tracking these deer the guy was blabbering on about what a great rifle it was and the great stopping power it had. If it had great stopping power, I think we actually would have found the deer lying dead a short distance from where he shot it. As it was, never found any of them after tracking each for about an hour and a half.

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I started taking my camera to the woods last year and wondered how folks got the close up pictures without the game spooking when the camera clicked. Then I discovered digital cameras "click" is a menu selectable sound that can be turned off. No shutter on a digital camera,no noise.

Unfortunately, mine clicks. It has shutters, apertures, a mirror that flips and probably a few other things that make noise including the autofocus. I have a Nikon D40. I probably should try and get a small one that doesn't make noise. It's quiet enough that I could probably get two photos, the first one as the animal approaches and the second one a very nice photo of the animal staring directly at me trying to figure out what just made the noise.

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Unfortunately, mine clicks. It has shutters, apertures, a mirror that flips and probably a few other things that make noise including the autofocus. I have a Nikon D40. I probably should try and get a small one that doesn't make noise. It's quiet enough that I could probably get two photos, the first one as the animal approaches and the second one a very nice photo of the animal staring directly at me trying to figure out what just made the noise.

Mine is a lower end Nikon Cool Pix 15x zoom 10mp. Has a nice large screen that I discovered is a pretty good nite vision devise.

[Aragorn243]

My kids all have Nikon Cool Pix. Maybe I'll swipe one of theirs.

[lude92]

i agree a .223/5.56 is a small round for hunting deer but it can still do the job just not as good as a larger round in my opinion i know about the design to wound than not to kill but a 30-06 oouch.

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My kids all have Nikon Cool Pix. Maybe I'll swipe one of theirs.

Not pro grade but a lot of fun to call them in for a photo op. Too small to shoot with a milsurp means torment them with a grunt call and shoot away with the camera. Lots of fun with none of the work.

[Aragorn243]

That's a pretty nice too small to shoot there.

[jmoore]

For the deer I've gotten to see lately, an M79 "thumper" would probably be the best tool. But even those rounds might not get through all the brush! Probably 10 deer seen in the last week and not one clear shot. That's another good thing about .223. No temptation to try to punch through the twigs and all. Won't work well except with a .50 BMG round, and that's too heavy to tote...

Today's deer were so well hidden they could only be seen whilst actually moving. No agricultural land on our property at all. It's got my Ohio friend all discombobulated. He never knew the challenges of hunting our undergrowth choked forest lands! To me, open areas in the woods are unnerving and best avoided. The deer live in the nasty bits.

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Not pro grade but a lot of fun to call them in for a photo op. Too small to shoot with a milsurp means torment them with a grunt call and shoot away with the camera. Lots of fun with none of the work.

Good grief! Out in the open in broad daylight! How I wish that our hunting was like that. Actually, not really. I like that challenge of getting in close in the scrub. Long range executions would ruin the feeling of having done a tough job well. Same goes for tree stands. Tried it, got a deer or two, and quit.