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painter777 USS Fitzgerald 06-18-2017, 04:48 PM
Eaglelord17 Many factors could be at... 06-18-2017, 04:52 PM
painter777 Broad sided in the middle of... 06-18-2017, 05:34 PM
RASelkirk Call me a skeptic, my... 06-18-2017, 05:46 PM
browningautorifle It does happen from time to... 06-18-2017, 05:48 PM
Chainfire As a former sailor, my best... 06-18-2017, 06:05 PM
old tanker It happened around 3 bells on... 06-22-2017, 10:09 PM
Aragorn243 I have to agree with... 06-18-2017, 08:38 PM
Sarge1998 The careers that will surely... 06-18-2017, 10:41 PM
Youngblood That was my first thought... 06-23-2017, 05:10 PM
painter777 Any Warning ? 06-18-2017, 11:01 PM
Aragorn243 I read something to the... 06-18-2017, 11:19 PM
painter777 I'm sure time will tell with... 06-19-2017, 12:20 AM
CINDERS All the posturing in the... 06-19-2017, 03:38 AM
painter777 AP, The container ship... 06-19-2017, 03:35 PM
Youngblood Wow! The strange thing (for... 06-23-2017, 08:30 PM
Eaglelord17 The fact that the Captain was... 06-19-2017, 05:02 PM
Bruce_in_Oz With every man and his... 06-19-2017, 09:05 PM
Merle One of the handful of... 06-20-2017, 01:51 PM
CINDERS I also think Bruce that when... 06-19-2017, 09:08 PM
Bruce_in_Oz Regarding ship names, there... 06-19-2017, 09:17 PM
Sarge1998 This seems to be drifting off... 06-20-2017, 12:05 AM
CINDERS Nope we will just fill in... 06-20-2017, 01:18 AM
Aragorn243 There is a major discrepancy... 06-20-2017, 07:51 AM
painter777 Heard on TV news, but can't... 06-20-2017, 04:42 PM
RASelkirk Here's a good write-up... 06-20-2017, 06:14 PM
Eaglelord17 The one hour difference in... 06-20-2017, 07:01 PM
Bruce_in_Oz The Naval types would also be... 06-20-2017, 08:31 PM
Cosine26 John Harrison tested the... 06-20-2017, 09:36 PM
Bruce_in_Oz Cosine 26 make a good point... 06-21-2017, 03:34 AM
Aussie48 Unless things have changed... 06-21-2017, 04:10 AM
painter777 I've read that the Japanese... 06-21-2017, 02:44 PM
AZshot I was a surface sailor in the... 06-21-2017, 04:34 PM
Sarge1998 Thank you for providing that... 06-21-2017, 08:45 PM
Bruce_in_Oz Aussie 48: Correct about the... 06-21-2017, 07:35 PM
Cosine26 As a pre INS/GPS,... 06-22-2017, 06:54 PM
Sarge1998 An interesting story of... 06-22-2017, 08:06 PM
Cosine26 As I understand it, the... 06-23-2017, 01:04 AM
CINDERS Well I must ask what was the... 06-23-2017, 04:28 AM
emmagee1917 From another board , make no... 06-23-2017, 01:02 PM
painter777 Tracking the ACX Crystal 06-23-2017, 01:09 PM
Bob Womack The latest info is that ACX... 06-23-2017, 01:17 PM
Flying10uk I would assume that the... 06-23-2017, 01:43 PM
painter777 When watching the video I... 06-23-2017, 04:34 PM
painter777 GEEEEZZEE, I've seen and... 06-23-2017, 05:01 PM
painter777 Read this theory: ... 06-23-2017, 05:18 PM
painter777 The other day..reports said... 06-26-2017, 07:44 PM
Flying10uk Perhaps the Captain of the... 06-27-2017, 01:23 PM
CINDERS What distances would be... 06-26-2017, 10:39 PM
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    Tracking the ACX Crystal

    Movement of the ACX Crystal,
    I came across this video from Vessel Finder.
    Makes it appear that the Crystal was trolling around for a target.
    Comments are.... interesting.


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    The latest info is that ACX Crystal was on autopilot and the bridge was unmanned. They didn't even know they'd had an impact until approximately fifteen minutes later.

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    I would assume that the U.S.iconS. Fitzgerald could "see" the dirty great container ship either visually or electronically with radar or other on board sensors. I don't really see how they can say that they were not aware of the container ship's presence, unless of course everyone on the bridge of the Fitzgerald was either fast asleep or completely incompetent. I can only assume that the Fitzgerald was under the impression that it had "right of way" but clearly the container ship either had other ideas or simply didn't see the Fitzgerald.

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    When watching the video I attached it looks like the impact was near Video time 1:06, Upper left corner Time Stamp was at 16:32:47.
    Then the ACX takes the hard right, back left and carries on towards it's intended course. Continues until it decides to turn back (maybe now knowing it was in a collision) at Video time 1:53, Time Stamp 17:04:37... ~1/2 hour after. At Video Time 3:06 Time Stamp 17:54:17 aprox 1-1/2hr after impact, Have they reached the impact point? Or searching for a damaged vessel?

    The track away to the north, followed by the Crazy Ivan, I don't understand.
    Then the ACX scoots along off to port.

    Very rough draft here but the time lines run close to the estimated collision times we've had reported to us.

    I'll attach the video again to make it easier to look at the time lines I've posted.

    Jog done these video time and time stamps, or open this in 2 windows and pass along your thoughts.

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    GEEEEZZEE,
    I've seen and read so many wild theories blaming all of the above, but haven't run across anyone putting the blame on Aliens yet...
    Would be entertaining if it wasn't for our lost souls.

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    Read this theory: Electronics aboard the Fitz were destroyed by a EMP.
    Also this, sold to North Korea by China:
    China's new microwave weapon can disable missiles and paralyze tanks | Popular Science

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    The other day..reports said no one was on bridge of ACX cargo ship.

    Today I read:
    The cargo vessel's skipper, Capt. Ronald Advincula, submitted a report to the ship's owner, Dainichi Investment Corporation. The captain's statement alleges that the container ship, the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal, had "signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald 'suddenly' steamed onto a course to cross its path," according to the Reuters article.

    The Crystal steered hard to starboard to avoid the destroyer, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to Advincula's report that was seen by Reuters.

    My 2 concerns......... If no one was on the bridge of the ACX at the time... Who signaled with flashing lights?
    Then if the Fitzgerald 'suddenly' crossed it's (the ACX) path, Why steer hard to Starboard?

    Time will tell, but I smell Fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    The cargo vessel's skipper, Capt. Ronald Advincula, submitted a report to the ship's owner, Dainichi Investment Corporation. The captain's statement alleges that the container ship, the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal, had "signaled with flashing lights
    Perhaps the Captain of the cargo vessel is able to offer a plausible explanation as to why his ship appeared to follow the course shown in the video, Post42.

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    What distances would be involved given a time lapse of 10 minutes understanding its a 29,000 tonne ship could have the destroyer poured on the coal to avoid the container vessel or didn't the destroyer see the other ship.
    I like a few others are trying to understand how a state of the art warship that had to have people in charge on the bridge miss a ship of that size with all the radar they have.
    As I am pretty sure the radar room does not shut down after sundown and if the bridge of the container ship was devoid of human control then despite the who's wrong surely the rules mandate the bridge will be manned 24/7 if so then there may be a big law suit coming if it is proven.

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