Long branch snipers

[browningautorifle]

The second chap's a Van Doo actually

Sure thing...I meant the first two with the PPCLI hatbadges...I'll bet you can get the RCR to claim the individual guy as well.

[Peter Laidler]

The range and deflection drums (thread 50) were the principal problem Rob. There were no identifiable markings and such as the 'clicks' were, they didn't equate to anything as I remember from the paperwork we had. I have one in front of me now (4430-S) and 'UP 20' doesn't relate to 20 MoA or 20 anything that I can establish on the range and azimuth chart. Nor does R-10 or R-30 on the deflection drum either. And while I'm here.............. where is the datum mark from which the hapless sniper sets his range - or indeed, starts his clicks if need be? No wonder we issued the fledgling European Army snipers with No4T's/No32's when they came to Hythe in the 40's and 50's on their courses.

It might have been a good rifle telescope Rob, but that doesn't make it a good SNIPERS telescope

[Surpmil]

It might have been a good rifle telescope Rob, but that doesn't make it a good SNIPERS telescope

I agree; it's painful to behold from an adjustment point of view. They're not a bad glass optically though, I had a military here one a couple of years back. Why it took the USA until Vietnam to get their act together on rifle scopes when they were one of the countries that pioneered their use is a bit of a mystery. Lost in the corridors of the War Department in Washington I suppose.

However, look at the Germans with the ZF41 and Zeiss Zeilvier, the Kahles and all those others until the ZF42: no clicks, no markings you can read from a firing position and no windage drums either. Even the Soviets figured out you needed to be able to read the markings without having the thing across you lap, but then they forgot the clicks until the PU came out in 1942.

Give the old 32 MkI its due, for all it's extra weight, missing backlash springs and sloppy detent plungers.