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Peter Laidler 7.62mm L4 series........ 09-22-2014, 10:03 AM
tombear It's only a de-ac' but I've a... 09-22-2014, 10:29 AM
Brian Dick Mine goes bang! Please do... 09-22-2014, 11:47 AM
harry mac I only like Brens when they... 11-05-2014, 09:26 PM
Lee Enfield The time and information will... 09-22-2014, 04:00 PM
TactAdv .....well, I'd be interested.... 09-22-2014, 08:35 PM
tankhunter Keep it ALL coming Peter. I... 09-23-2014, 04:39 AM
Brit plumber Well all mine go click but... 09-24-2014, 04:58 PM
tankhunter QUITE Happy to swap a Genuine... 09-25-2014, 08:20 AM
Peter Laidler Before I go on with this... 10-19-2014, 07:35 AM
tankhunter Yes Pete, I am going (When I... 10-19-2014, 11:34 AM
raexcct2 Yes, MK2. Just finished... 11-23-2014, 09:49 PM
Gil Boyd Yes please Peter always worth... 10-19-2014, 08:41 AM
Peter Laidler Well chaps, I did ask and you... 10-20-2014, 02:22 PM
tankhunter Pete, Im going to go the easy... 10-21-2014, 03:14 AM
Peter Laidler Oooooops....... Yes, ejector... 10-21-2014, 05:03 AM
Peter Laidler And here's something else... 10-21-2014, 03:06 PM
c310pilot Here is my successful... 10-24-2014, 09:57 AM
c310pilot Inserts 10-24-2014, 10:08 AM
c310pilot gas shield 10-24-2014, 10:10 AM
Gil Boyd The real knack is to master... 10-24-2014, 10:44 AM
Peter Laidler Well, the first video shows... 10-24-2014, 04:59 PM
Peter Laidler Is that an early L4A1 type... 10-25-2014, 05:54 AM
c310pilot I will have to rely on your... 10-25-2014, 05:09 PM
Peter Laidler That's the real McCoy L4... 10-26-2014, 06:49 AM
c310pilot Correct. Just in the white... 10-26-2014, 08:20 AM
ActionYobbo that paint is available now... 10-26-2014, 08:42 AM
c310pilot but its hazmat and illegal to... 10-26-2014, 09:13 AM
Peter Laidler I think that you might find... 10-26-2014, 11:16 AM
c310pilot The bipod assembly was... 10-26-2014, 11:26 AM
Brian Dick c310, I managed to scrounge... 10-26-2014, 12:59 PM
Peter Laidler Hey......, there you go. The... 10-26-2014, 01:50 PM
c310pilot Well that's easy enough. It... 10-26-2014, 06:21 PM
Peter Laidler If you're starting with a Mk1... 10-26-2014, 06:38 PM
Peter Laidler Maybe just caught up on... 11-06-2014, 03:23 PM
Brian Dick Harry mac, I enjoy mine,... 11-07-2014, 11:52 AM
Peter Laidler I don't have magazine... 11-08-2014, 09:52 AM
Brian Dick c310, He can do it. Just... 11-09-2014, 01:22 PM
Peter Laidler Good afternoon Joe. Good... 11-09-2014, 01:56 PM
Joe H Hi Peter, Can't argue with... 11-09-2014, 02:58 PM
c310pilot Peter, the C130 is a great... 11-09-2014, 04:26 PM
TactAdv All- The issue you are... 11-09-2014, 05:00 PM
Peter Laidler If we could all get our... 11-10-2014, 06:56 AM
Joe H Well Peter, You have... 11-10-2014, 07:47 AM
Peter Laidler And C-130 could whip over... 11-10-2014, 09:53 AM
TactAdv Guys....remember too that I... 11-10-2014, 11:42 AM
c310pilot All of this is very... 11-10-2014, 06:29 PM
Joe H Hey C310, Get plenty of... 11-11-2014, 07:08 AM
ActionYobbo I had a thought while... 11-10-2014, 10:55 PM
Peter Laidler I'd be starting with the... 11-11-2014, 04:17 AM
Peter Laidler Good technical discussion and... 11-11-2014, 10:30 AM
Vincent Are the SGM Tactical VEPR... 11-13-2014, 10:58 PM
Joe H 58115 Vincent, Hard to... 11-14-2014, 07:05 AM
Peter Laidler I'm even more convinced that... 11-14-2014, 09:32 AM
Peter Laidler Without the skill and learned... 11-24-2014, 08:13 AM
c310pilot I have found that a vast... 11-26-2014, 07:02 PM
Peter Laidler What seems to be the problem... 11-27-2014, 03:39 AM
c310pilot The thread kind of got... 12-02-2014, 06:56 PM
Brian Dick I've got plenty of 30 rd L4... 11-27-2014, 01:59 PM
raexcct2 C310pilot, I finally... 12-09-2015, 08:28 PM
Joe H raexcct2, Can't speak for... 12-10-2015, 07:27 AM
TactAdv Bingo!! It's a sad state of... 12-10-2015, 10:21 AM
raexcct2 So true. I still have two of... 12-26-2015, 01:51 AM
Longshaor Joe, Thanks for the post... 01-23-2016, 08:40 PM
Peter Laidler I understand that 7.62mm... 01-24-2016, 06:44 AM
Longshaor That's one less headache to... 01-25-2016, 09:52 AM
Peter Laidler Breech blocks....... ... 01-25-2016, 11:06 AM
TactAdv Yep! As stated here several... 01-25-2016, 11:18 AM
Joe H Also works with a semi made... 01-25-2016, 03:41 PM
Longshaor My goal is an L4 clone for my... 01-25-2016, 06:28 PM
scoobsean 691176911869119 I have a... 01-25-2016, 08:07 PM
Peter Laidler The bipod sleeve (the part... 01-26-2016, 05:22 AM
scoobsean Would re-profiling the barrel... 01-27-2016, 10:59 PM
scoobsean Is the bipod sleeve not the... 01-26-2016, 07:37 AM
Peter Laidler Hopefully KevG will put up a... 01-26-2016, 08:05 AM
scoobsean I googled some photos and see... 01-26-2016, 08:43 AM
Peter Laidler Sleeve machined round and... 01-26-2016, 09:16 AM
TactAdv .......stolen pictures, for... 01-26-2016, 11:11 AM
Peter Laidler That's the one. Thanks Tom. ... 01-26-2016, 12:29 PM
Joe H Breech Blocks & Barrels 01-27-2016, 09:59 AM
TactAdv Joe, Yes, you are correct in... 01-27-2016, 11:37 AM
Peter Laidler All I can add is that some of... 01-27-2016, 01:52 PM
Peter Laidler I can't say that reprofiling... 01-29-2016, 03:03 PM
Peter Laidler Here they are, diameters for... 02-01-2016, 10:38 AM
scoobsean Thanks Peter, much... 02-01-2016, 11:42 AM
Peter Laidler Bren barrels are an absolute... 02-01-2016, 01:29 PM
ianculham Hello all, I have an L4A4... 04-19-2016, 06:02 PM
Brit plumber I think you should check out... 04-23-2016, 04:09 PM
Gil Boyd The quicker we tactically... 04-23-2016, 04:26 PM
Peter Laidler It's ONLY statute law that... 04-23-2016, 05:48 PM
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    I'd be starting with the tried and trusted old .303" magazines and go from there because they are another 'known' - in that they are an original FIT in your gun. The similarities between the .303 and 762R are just too great to ignore. But that is the starting point from someone who ain't tried it!
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    Good technical discussion and I am inclined to agree with that sentiment Joe. BUT....... I always remember that old saying. 'Where there's a will, there's a way' But better still, the corrected version of one of my old bosses. Where there's a will, there's usually a simple way. On the other hand, one of my '.....more recent' bosses, MUCH higher in rank to me, changed all that to '.....where there's a will, I can usually make it a difficult way! And he usually did!

    I'd like to think that the .303" magazine is the way to go BUT get rid of the platform guide and use an articulated/find-its-own-level platform.

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    Are the SGM Tactical VEPR 7.26x54R 20 round magazines adaptable to the Bren?

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    Are the SGM Tactical VEPR 7.26x54R 20 round magazines adaptable to the Bren?
    Vincent,

    Hard to tell without having one in hand. They are made of Black Polymer and are advertised as double stack to single feed which is what the Lahti mag is. It is also designed to feed up, the opposite of the Bren.

    Doesn't look promising to me but I've been wrong before

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    I'm even more convinced that starting with a good 'known' before you start is the way to go. Tac Adv makes several valid points and has obviously been here beforee, especially with regards the slightly larger base rim diameter. By default, this will reduce the capacity by one mathematically but by doing so, this should make the curvature and platform configuration MORE adaptable. Especially since we might be getting rid of the now unnecessary (and friction causing) follower

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    Without the skill and learned depth of knowledge gained by C-130 pilot - and access to the parts I doubt whether your local gunsmith is the man! Why not have a chat over a beer with the man himself, Are you there C-130 pilot?

    You can simplify the whole thing by leaving the butt slide, bipod legs and sleeve, gas blast plate etc etc as they are.

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    I have found that a vast majority of gunsmiths really have no clue. They simply have a license so they can own post sample machine guns. Most of the work is farmed out. I have photos and a step by step process all laid out. I can convert a Bren easily enough having done it. All it takes is time as the learning curve is over! You definitely need a mill, and if you want the mag reinforcements a lathe. The parts Peter discussed are all 'frosting' as I like to call it. Bolt on type items except for the gas shield which is easily fabricated. I would be more than happy to discuss.

    Joe L and I have some ideas as far as the mag and we are going to put together a couple of frankenmags for giggles to see if we are heading down the right path. Apex gun parts here in the US had Bren mags for $2.00 ea. Cheap for parts, springs followers, and cutting and brazing on a Lahti upper. It will be an interesting concept test to say the least.
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    What seems to be the problem with 7.62mm magazines for the 7.62mm L4 Bren conversion. If you haven't got the 30 rounders, then the standard rifle magazines fit and function - as they were made to interchange. And even if you can't get the UKicon 'big lug' type, the FN type will fit. And if they are a bit loose fore-and-aft, then it's simplicity itself to fabricate the big lug.

    Or am I missing something in my old age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    What seems to be the problem with 7.62mm magazines for the 7.62mm L4 Bren conversion. If you haven't got the 30 rounders, then the standard rifle magazines fit and function - as they were made to interchange. And even if you can't get the UKicon 'big lug' type, the FN type will fit. And if they are a bit loose fore-and-aft, then it's simplicity itself to fabricate the big lug.

    Or am I missing something in my old age?
    The thread kind of got derailed. I have 14 7.62 mags for my L4. The mag conversion is for the 303 guns to shoot 54r. 54r is .18 per round. 7.62 is close to .60 and .303 is usually even more. cheaper than dirt recently had a bunch of hxp for .44 per round to my door. It's all about economy.

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    I've got plenty of 30 rd L4 mags if in need. Both new and used.

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