Lee-Enfield Rifles captured in Afghanistan 2006

[Sentryduty]

Never saw a No4 copy

Same here, I can't say they don't exist, but I never encountered one, perhaps they weren't able to get the tooling? LOL.

Peter's assessment is probably the correct one, and really, a Lee Enfield, is a Lee Enfield, for a Khyber pass "craftsman" there would be no reason to hammer out a different version of the same gun you have already been banging out for decades. They probably have their stone dies and scrap oil drums cut to just the right specification to bang out a perfect No.1 rear sight protector in only a handful of blind hits.

Each stock is carefully crafted from only the finest pallet grade timber, and stained to beautiful finish with very best of used Mahindra tractor oils.

There is a whole tooling up factor to consider, LOL.

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[Peter Laidler]

At the lecture room at HQ SASC I had a few Khyber Pass bits and pieces including a couple of weapons. I also had some weapon related items. A No1 rifle stock bolt, breech bolt, AK top covers ......., you know the sort of things. You're right Darren...... made from beaten out bits of oil can and coil springs from flattened steel, The stock bolt........ Well....., let's just say that it may have fitted something somewhere in the known universe........ I attached it to a piece of string tied to a REAL stock bolt for curiosity more than anything else. It certainly made the Lee Enfield visitors chuckle!

[Richard Hare]

My hat's still off to the blokes who can actually make a rifle that looks like the No 1 Mk 111. Terrific amount of work with hand tools and the only vise is your toes.

Yes, heat treatment and hardening likely a long way off, but I don't know any chaps here in the west that could do what these fellows do, with just files and a hacksaw. Seems they have endless supplies of Resolve! :-)

[Paul S.]

. . . Seems they have endless supplies of Resolve! :-)

That and no Internet or wifi service to distract them.

[Richard Hare]

You're dead right Paul!

I waste hours these days.
Used to get a lot more done before we had these contraptions.

[Surpmil]

It was just a little word play reference to politics and the photo being previously reversed.

[Sentryduty]

Should we abandon the internet and set off to make "Crowsnest Pass" copies of Martini's and Metfords then?

I think I know of a steady supply of truck springs, and surely construction rebar could be gun drilled.

Or they could be called Bow River Rifles, Pembina Pistols, and Saskatchewan River SMG's a whole regional cottage industry of scrap fashioned firearms marketing!



LOL.

[Peter Laidler]

It's simple to make 'rifles' that go bang and kill people. The real wizzards as simplicity must have been the Mau-Mau in Kenya

[Richard Hare]

That and the Congo were wicked, Peter, just wicked.

[Sentryduty]

That is interesting, it's been well over a decade since I read Andy McNab's account and seen the film coverage about Chris Ryan's experience. My memory could be fuzzy but I recalled that they were compromised by a civilian youth early in the mission, perhaps I was mistaken?

However the use of the left hand in gesturing is seen as disrespect, but is not generally as enough of a slight to warrant killing someone over it. I would think that the patrol was chased simply because they were patrolling in Iraqi held territory at that time.

In practice we would use the left hand to gesture and direct people quite often, simply because the strong hand (right) stayed on the weapon grip, and no cultural nuance would have us compromise our safety. No one was attacked directly after doing so in my experience anyway.