Does anyone make accurate reproduction MkV Sten foregrips?

[Peter Laidler]

Yep, point taken. That one just looks raked a little too far rearwards but it MUST be correct. It's the end elevation that is needed to show the cup effect of the grip around the barrel nut, You can see from that and the position of the band, that the bolt is pretty well central in the underside of the grip.

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[Vincent]

Could there be two or three different versions of the grip? The one on page 77 doesn’t look the same as the one on page 79 of your Sten book. The one in post 53 also looks different.

The one Brit plumber posted in post 49 could be the same as the one in post 53, just slightly modified. Maybe a crunchie “customized” it?

I see what you are saying about rearward rake. The one on page 79 of your Sten book looks like it has very little rake compared to the others.

[Peter Laidler]

I think that they were all made by Tibbehnams. But whatever the rake angle, none of the monstrosities shown as advertised as 'genuine' are remotely genuine.

[Vincent]

The Gnome-Rhône grip has a lot of rake.



I wonder how it is attached to the magazine housing.

Some good pictures in this thread https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=2403&page=8

[Peter Laidler]

A good example of '....give a butcher a hammer and a hacksaw and he'll come up with something'. That safety mechanism that rotates around the front of the casing is something that defies belief. Surely not.......... The K.I.S.S 'through-bolt' safety mechanism really was a simple and safe as it can possibly be! But as it's often said, where there's a will, there's a difficult way

[Vincent]

I am looking at the safety and wondering why it has the notch that lines up with the cocking slot. Is it to put the gun on safe with it cocked?

[Sentryduty]

It looks like a dual purpose safety, in the photographed position it appears to lock the bolt closed, preventing the handle from being caught on something and pulled rear, causing an AD. But with the weapon cocked, the "sheetmetal" safety would appear to prevent the bolt from travelling far enough to load a round and fire. In the same fashion as a C96 Broomhandle Mauser safety works, the hammer will still fly when the trigger is pressed, but the safety will prevent the hammer from hitting the firing pin by an 1/8" of an inch.

Personally this Sten safety seems a little much, and is probably designed in response to all of the rumors of runaway Stens and whatnot.

A gun can never have too many safeties, unless it's more than one, more than one is too many safeties. LOL

[Peter Laidler]

While researching the Sten book, we dropped several old Stens butt first on the hardwood floor of the range hut while loaded with blanks just to test the security of the through-bolt forward safety and the rear slot safe position. The cocking handle just stayed where it was. On both guns, the butt frame welds broke! The real safety 'problem' was if the trigger to sear spring broke. Then the gun would fire until the mag was empty. Incidentally, that long spring was taken/adapted from the old pre and post war Sturmey-Archer cycle 3-speed hub change mechanism. Another useless piece of info from Harold Turpins papers

[Vincent]

“Lorry drop” story research?

[Peter Laidler]

That test for the video was slightly different Vince. That showed that if an UN-modified gun was dropped from over 9" or so, then the gun wouldnt(?) fire but the inertia would simply cause the breech block to cock on the sear. Under 2" drop and the breech block wouldn't catch the next round in the magazine. But between 3" and 9", the gun MIGHT fire. I say 'might' as whether it will or not depends on whether the forward momentum of the breech block will chamber and have sufficient momentum to punch the cap. Getting a bit technical now but the further the block travels the more stored energy and all that momentum stuff.............

It shows that the Sten wasn't all the pure unsafe bullshine that has been said of it.