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    There is a high speed video of an M1icon carbine firing in super slow motion on the CCC forum that was put out by Mark Serbu. I think Wayne has nailed it with you having the early slide. Switching to a later slide should help the deflection angle.hth
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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    There is a high speed video of an M1icon carbine firing in super slow motion
    After adding some search parameters from your post, I found some videos. Here they are for the convenience of posterity...
    I think this is what you referenced


    I also found a second video...


    EDIT: Very interesting. In Mark's video, at ~1:21.5 (I slowed the speed down to 0.25x so you can see each frame), the ejection begins with the mouth being directed to the right, bringing it in to contact with the slide. The case at ~1:34.5 start off with the mouth pointing more vertical this time.
    I would think the ejector geometry and load dictates this initial direction. Of course the slide geometry dictates the final push/bounce. Or more particular, how the forward component of the ejection pattern. Perhaps I can keep my slide, and use a different ejector to put the brass in better contact with the slide I have. The PPU loads from what I've read are pretty good in comparison to milsurp ammo.
    For what it's worth, my NPM has the same style slide as this underwood does, but has the 45deg. bevel ejector. It has never in ~300rds thrown brass in my face. It had a different problem...magazine causing failure to feed (cured in another thread by using the later style recoil plate. now all my mags work. this was cheaper than buying different mags.)
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    I'm missing something here, can't see the vids you posted?
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    they show up for me. here are hard links.
    Link1=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clfW4cZg1O0
    Link2=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcGUJPs0t_U

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    For what it's worth, my NPM has the same style slide as this underwood does, but has the 45deg. bevel ejector. It has never in ~300rds thrown brass in my face. It had a different problem...magazine causing failure to feed (cured in another thread by using the later style recoil plate. now all my mags work. this was cheaper than buying different mags.)
    Swap those ejector assemblies and see what happens. I have carbines with Type 2, 3, and 5 slides - they all shoot fine and with good ejection, even those with the earlier slides. I like to keep those slides on the guns that came with them, as they can (and do) work fine. I would try swapping ejectors first. If you can check (or know) the headspace on those two, you could save some effort by just swapping the complete bolts. It can be done without removing the action from the stock, but I don't really recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    here are hard links.
    First one was Styx - Too Much Time On My Hands... Anyway, I get it. It must just be me.
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    Jim,
    I can't see Vids in reply 52, but see the hard links in #54.
    I'll post the 1st one here to save time.
    The 2nd one is out of focus and short of detail.

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    Mark Serbu, M1icon Carbine High Speed Video

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    Thanks Charlie! To save confusion I'm really going to have to have the wife show me how to post links into this forum. I can post links to email and in private messages but this forum is never one of the options I see to post it in. I hate being computer ignorant haha
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    I can post links to email and in private messages but this forum is never one of the options I see to post it in.
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