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    Okay, here it is one of a few chests I had in my sheds last 20 years. Might unload this soon.
    Anyways it held a 4T Long Branch back in the 80's Except for 1 replaced handle she looks complete and original. iN PICS C broadhed and H.C.F. 1945 On the reverse side also has white faint paint The Factory Codes and CHEST SA NO 15 mk1 and EQUIPMENTS.




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    Thanks for all the information, everyone!

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    Now up for sale

    Good morning:
    Due to some unforeseen expenses, a few toys will have to go. This may be one of them. I will be posting in the Quartermaster's stores shortly, but if anyone is interested, I will be selling it for $8500, which is what I have in it.

    Thx

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    Book found with sniper rifle

    Quote "Interestingly, the case also contains a sniper veil and a 1942 dated copy of a book called Fieldcraft Sniping and Intelligence by Major Neville Armstrong, with inscribed names inside of Arnold Hopkins 1942 and Capt. CM Stevens, Seaforth of Canadaicon.......... I would assume that the book was added later, but it's a nice touch."

    I can confirm that the book was added later as I never owned that particular sniper rifle. It was a surprise to see my name listed and I do not remember that particular book.

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    I carried my personal No. 4 Mk. I(T) on at least one exercise as Officer Commanding Recce Platoon. My Sergeant also carried his own No. 4 Mk. I(T)




    Quote Originally Posted by boltaction View Post
    I have come across an LB #4 (T) which has me somewhat puzzled. The rifle is a 1945, all matching, in that the bolt, receiver, stock, magazine and scope mount match each other and the scope number in the mounts matches the number stamped on the top of the butt stock, etc. The rifle is in pristine condition, and was obviously sent to Englandicon at some point, as it is stamped England on the receiver. However, what puzzles me is that
    a) it rides in a British transit case (3 screw hinges, folded not stitched leather handles) and the scope rides in a metal tin more commonly seen with the Brit snipers as opposed to the Canadian softie case. However, the tag tacked to the transit case has the scope and rifle number on it, and the tag stuck inside the scope tin also has the scope and rifle number on it, with a packing date of 1962. The fellow who had the rifle got it at Milarm in 1977, and it came in that box.

    b) the rifle has C Broad arrow stamped wood on it, which is in pristine condition, but the buttplate is the Brit looking brass type, not the more typical LB buttplate.

    Were some of the LB's sent to England, and put in stores there, then perhaps put into British cases if the Canadian ones were trashed? The purists would say that this needs to be in a 4 screw Canadian chest and proper Canadian scope case, and would be correct, but this one has been matched to a British case and British scope tin, with appropriate armourer tags on them. Has that been observed before, and is it considered still "matching"? My other LB rides in a Canadian chest but has the wrong card. This one rides in the "wrong" type of chest and scope tin, but they are matched to it. Also, were any of the 1945 LB's fitted with the British "brass" type buttplates--I didn't think LB was using those then. This rifle looks like it was hardly if at all used, and the wood is original Canadian (with all the little tiny proofs etc nice and crisp), but I don't get the buttplate thing....

    Interestingly, the case also contains a sniper veil and a 1942 dated copy of a book called Fieldcraft Sniping and Intelligence by Major Neville Armstrong, with inscribed names inside of Arnold Hopkins 1942 and Capt. CM Stevens, Seaforth of Canada.......... I would assume that the book was added later, but it's a nice touch.

    Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. If folks want me to post a bunch of pictures, I can take some when I have time.

    Thx

    Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    they wanted one that the user on the last course had passed the course with.
    I agree Peter you would get a known shooter not saying the others would not as you Armourers would ensure the T's shot and shot well but in some things it just all comes together to produce a real shooter.
    And like everything the ol' girls have been through what stories they could tell us no I think this rifle looks pretty dam good wish I owned it.

    Just like MGB's some just seem better when I had my Z900 my friend he had a Z900 all the same except colour we used to race each other (less cars on the road in '76) he would pass me in third gear every time and stay about 2 bike lengths in front and that was it right up to the top gear redline. (I do not support street racing having lost some friends who hit immovable objects at high speed on bikes, leave it for tuning days or street meets, a car got my bike me one fine sunny day guess it was hungry!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaforth72 View Post
    Quote "Interestingly, the case also contains a sniper veil and a 1942 dated copy of a book called Fieldcraft Sniping and Intelligence by Major Neville Armstrong, with inscribed names inside of Arnold Hopkins 1942 and Capt. CM Stevens, Seaforth of Canadaicon.......... I would assume that the book was added later, but it's a nice touch."

    I can confirm that the book was added later as I never owned that particular sniper rifle. It was a surprise to see my name listed and I do not remember that particular book.

    Captain (retired) Colin MacGregor Stevens
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    Late of Her Majesty's Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, 1970-1977 (and other units)
    I carried my personal No. 4 Mk. I(T) on at least one exercise as Officer Commanding Recce Platoon. My Sergeant also carried his own No. 4 Mk. I(T)
    I suspect that the wartime published book was owned by an officer with a similar name in the 1942-45 era rather than by yourself.

    It's truly an excellent book and I believe that you would have remembered owning it.
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    I was the only Capt CM Stevens ever in the Seaforth Highlanders of Canadaicon and have a habit of putting this info in my books. Arnold Hopkins would have been the wartime owner of the manual, and myself an owner in the mid-1970s when I was promoted to Captain. I have owned many excellent books over the years and definitely do not remember them all. The proof of course would be in the handwriting . :-)

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