De Lsile Commando Carbine MKII Copy

[Brian Dick]

They can't be imported to the USA, not even in dummy suppressor mode with a 16.2" barrel. The only way an SMLE is regarded as a curio and relic and is legal to import is if it's in original military configuration. I would have pursued importing the replica Delisles as made by Gordon Lamont/Shandwick supply in Scotland many years ago if it was doable. Their repros are exceptional too.

[Peter Laidler]

Shandwick supply borrowed one of ours to use to back engineer their replicas. Even they commented on the use of variable body tolerances/wear!

[browningautorifle]

Not sure why you say the copy I am making is not for consumption in Canada. A De Lisle without a suppressor is still a functional De Lisle just no noise reduction.

Because if it has no noise reduction it's just a .45 carbine. Very fun to shoot but not a De-Lisle silenced carbine.

[Vincent]

It will be a non-restricted gun so any collector with a PAL can own and shoot .........

Interesting. A fake suppressor has to be solid here. They are usually made from aluminum to keep the weight down.

A hollow tube over a solid barrel is a NAF item. In the eyes of the BATFE it’s the same as a real suppressor.

You can legally own a hollow fake suppressor here by getting a tax stamp the same as you would for a real one. I can think of better ways to spend $200.

It seems a bit ironic that in a land where suppressors are strictly verboten, you can own a fake that can be easily converted into the real thing.

[browningautorifle]

A hollow tube over a solid barrel

Here, we'd need an 19 " barrel with rifling that engages the bullet the whole length...so I don't think it's going to be hollow. Even if it is, the barrel would be solid. If the barrel is shorter than that it would need to be registered the same as a handgun. That would reduce the consumer market even more...the fake cans you can buy through various suppliers are solid material.

[tiriaq]

Clarification on Canadian barrel length requirements: A barrel on any manually operated or semi auto .22 rimfire longarm may not be shortened to less than 18" without the firearm becoming a prohibited.
However, if a barrel is being made, there is no minimum length for a barrel on a manually operated or semi auto .22 rimfire longarm. The only proviso is that the overall length of the firearm with the new barrel exceeds 26".
The presence of rifling is irrelevant. The same law applies to smoothbore guns.

[browningautorifle]

You're right.

[Vincent]

the fake cans you can buy through various suppliers are solid material.

Same here.

There was a recall of some GSG fake cans a while back after the BATFE determined they were NAF items. A new lookalike De Lisle would fall under the same ruling and need a solid fake can.

[enfield 111]

I am not sure how you "convert" a tube that is over a solid continuous barrel into a suppressor. The tube is welded to the receiver which is welded to the barrel which is welded to the end caps. If you were to chop the receiver off the tube cut the barrel from the receiver cut off the end caps, cut the barrel from the receiver then make a new barrel, fit a new tube to the gun, make new end caps port the barrel and make baffles for the gun you would under Canadian Law be manufacturing a prohibited device, manufacturing a prohibited firearm because you are chopping the barrel and by combining all the manufactured bits together you have committed illegal acts in the process. There are many examples of an outer tube over a barrel that are registered in Canada as non restricted guns. Just because there is an outer tube over a smaller barrel does not make it a suppressor component.

[browningautorifle]

Those were exactly the questions Vincent was asking...