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    Also I have never had any reason to be fearful of a squib, they are audible and literally tell you they are there. I have never had one happen to me personally, but had it happen to a shooter at the table next to me years ago. As long as you have decent hearing, squibs tell you they're there
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    If a person is looking for a reloading error, it will probably happen with a progressive loader. I have a MEC Grabber which is a shotgun progressive, but that is a 5 pull deal and it is right there in your face and requires action each pull. But 25 shells in about 10 minutes is too good to pass up. A high capacity Dillon can have problems that you'll never see.

    Electronic scales can cause accidents. I use an RCBS 10/10 which is the best old Ohaus. I also use the old RCBS powder dump which is also the big Ohaus. These are fool proof tools. I switched to a hand held single priming tool as you get to feel that primer seat and inspect each case after use. High primers cause most problems with reloads.

    JonD: If you use that much ammunition, reloading is not the way to go. You just have to buy in bulk when you get the best deals, you are not screwing around with Midway or Walmart for your shooting supplies.
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    Correct, buying in bulk(cases) is the only way if you're using factory and I have been doing that for almost the last 15-20 years. All the brass ammunition I am shooting today, I probably bought more than 10 years ago when it was still fairly priced. The only ammunition I'm having to currently buy every now and then is steel cased ammo for my Russianicon guns because I go through untold amounts of those. Ammunition and tannerite I am probably good on for the next 10 years or so if I were never to buy another bullet starting today. The only downside to it is storing it within living space in the house. I have a whole spare bedroom devoted to it and I was just telling Charlie last month that I am going to have to have a structural engineer to come look at my floor to make sure the weight can be adequately supported without warping or ruining my floor.
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    Thanks for everyone's comments. Here we are all cleaned up
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    With all the dirt and oil lifted off the surface of the wood, I can now make out the cross cannons. I used lacquer thinner and rag. This moves the color around and fixes any "new" scratches or dings etc. Acetone works good too, especially on areas with heavy oil deposits, but it's more aggressive. Laquer thinner is more forgiving on the original oxidized color, in my experience.

    I won't get the range until mid next week, but will post back targets of how it ran.

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    Has anyone been noticing most of the Midway carbines with Dogleg hammers have the 26 Coil Hammer spring ?

    Note about reloading:
    Check your Powder makers Web Sites Often... multiple times a day.
    A number of Powder makers have been selling directly to us the consumer. Price runs about ~$3-$4 more a pound than Honest suppliers sell for.
    They do have some limitations: Product must be in stock, 1 order per 30 days, limit of 5 SKU part numbers per item... IE 5-1lb 296, 5-1lb H335 etc until you hit 5 SKU Part numbers, usually 40lb limit on total order (shipping weight), and these are not to be retail sold. My last 3 orders over the past 90+ days have totaled 80+ lbs of Powder.

    Don't underestimate Vihtavuori N110 for the M1icon Carbine. Little more expensive but very clean and consistent. Shoots very well in cold and hot summer days.

    A recent surprise to me: Chrono test achieved quicker speeds from Standard Small Rifle Primers vs Magnum Small Rifle Primers. Standard SRP measured about 30' Fps faster from the muzzle. Will test 296 vs H110 with Stan-SRP vs Mag-SRP soon. And will test the mixed .357 loads of VV110 Soon.

    From VV LOAD DATA:
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Has anyone been noticing most of the Midway carbines with Dogleg hammers have the 26 Coil Hammer spring ?
    Not sure I would say most Charlie, I have counted quite a few 22 coil springs on these from the pictures posted. The Winchester I got has a 22 coil spring.

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    More like a overstatement from me Wayne,
    I obviously haven't seen all of them, but from the ones I have seen most had the 26 coil spring.
    Like this one here and many by new 1st time owners on Redditt sub forums.

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    Ahh, I have not looked on reddit, but more importantly Charlie, Welcome Back!!!!

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    range report

    I had my son at the range with me tonight...the main purpose of the trip was to zero our 1873 trapdoor. But...with the extra body to chase brass, we took this carbine too.
    We were shooting PPU, 110gr soft points. Reportedly 2001 FPS. It's cheap ammo, and I knew better than to expect too much from it. Had my labradar with me, and here are the results across a box of 50
    Avg. MV: 1945
    min 1868, max 2038
    SD 40.8

    With the sight all the way down, and zeroed for windage, at 25 yds we were ~4 inches high on average. Horizontal spread was nill, but we were stringing vertically a total of 6 inches or so. With the target (8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper) at 100 yards, and aiming at the bottom of the page, we scattered all over the target, but seemed to hit the paper with regularity.

    Now, I purchased 3 brand new still in the grease wrap USGI magazines for this rifle. They all jiggle something fierce in all directions when in the rifle. We were loading groups of five, and for the first 6 groups, every 3rd round jammed - no failures to eject, and the ejection pattern was a consistent 4 o'clock. Once the barrel warmed up, they still kicked out at 4 o'clock, but went much higher in the air, and 3 out of every 5 rounds were jamming.

    Every failure to feed was the same. I think the magazine sits too low (lots of vertical play), which makes the angle at which the nose of the round kicks up too steep, and the round wedges in the mouth of the chamber, halfway in. If I pull back slightly on the op-rod, and relieve the forward pressure, the next round in the mag pops the base of the jammed round up and all is well again.

    If I'm not completely off in left field with my hypothesis, can someone recommend a better magazine? I'm sure the accuracy will greatly improve with some handloading and better fitting magazines. On a good note, we only lost 2 out of 100 pieces of brass

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