They're here! Reproduction No32 scopes.

[vintage hunter]

When looking through my no.32 scope the reticle and the object being viewed are fuzzy. All modern scopes i've delt with have some form of adjustment to correct this. Any way to fix this on the 32? Other than having the rare opportunity to shoot an original no.4t some 10 yrs ago and seeing another at a gun show i have no experience with them at all.

[Peter Laidler]

There is Vintage Hunter......... But before you do anything, you must ask yourself if it's the pre-focussed-on-an-optical-bench-telescope that needs adjusting or your eyes by means of spectacles. MANY shooters simply will not accept that they might need spectacles! If it's the telescope, unscrew the 4 round or cheese head screws holding the PLATE, cover, segment in place. Under the cover, you'll see a small alloy or brass 'SEGMENT'. Hook this out and notice that underneath, it is toothed (in such a way that it can be used in half pitch mode by rotating it horizontally through 180 degrees). Under the segment is what looks like a threaded or splined ERECTOR CELL. Mount the telescope firmly and aimed at a distant aiming point (a DAP). With a small screwdriver, gently move the brass erector cell fore or aft until the image and the grat are perfectly focussed. When they are (if they're not ........... that's another problem.....!) note which way round the segment will align with the splines/threads on the erector cell. Put a small blob of graphite grease in the hole followed by the segment and screw the cover down.

Got that.........? I have done one or two of these. BDL also sells a good readable book about these telescopes. Cheap too!

[MJ1]

I have only had to do this twice once for myself and again for another guy who also had eye glasses and only when a third person with young eyes proofed the fix for me.I was still uncomfortable changing the focus but several people have shot both rifles and remarked how well the scopes pull in the tragets. Peter's book is invaluable for this and just about any other question. My copy has become dog-eared over the years.


....MJ....

[breakeyp]

As I had mentioned in a previous post, the new reproduction scope and a SARCO mount shifted the windage too far to the left beyond the capability of the widgage adjustment to compensate based on use of an optical sight collimator.

I had time today to dig out additional reproduction scope mounts and did some comparison measurements of the thickness of the mount front pad as has been suggested.

My problem mount dimension 0.4885 inches

additional mount dimensions--all reproduction:

0.537
0.538
0.540
0.537
0.539
0.538

A factory mount measures 0.501. I was too lazy to pull down additional factory rifles/mounts.


I fitted the scope to the 0.540 mount and brought everything into reasonable alignment according to the optical sight collimator. At least I now have some windage travel available for final sighting in, if I ever get around to it.

It seems to me that if your interest is more in shooting than collecting, the repro mount with a Weaver scope would be more forgiving.

[vintage hunter]

Thank you Peter for your advice. I do wear specticles and things are much better with them on. Now for the not so good part. Just got in from the range and am not entirely suprised at the findings. The mechanics on my particular no.32 repro do not live up to the $600 price tag in my opinion. But, what can you really expect from a knockoff that nobody's proud enough of to put their name on? The elevation or ranging adjustment worked good enough but, if you press down on it the pointer bobs up&down like a cork in the wind. Next, the real problem, was the deflection or windage screw seems to be bent. When turned left to right the pointer will rise a bit then go straight a bit then take a nose dive. Bent screw for sure. The up side to the whole mess was that, by some miracle of chance, I got the cussed thing to center up at 200 yds. Now if it will only stay there i can make do with a little Kentucky Windage at further ranges. I cincerely hope that everyone else that spent 600 hard earned dollars on one of these scopes has better luck than i have had so far. By millwright standards this ain't no percision instrument by a long shot. TO ALL MY FRIENDS @ MILSURPS.COM I WISH YOU & YOUR FAMILIES A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM TOM STILL a.k.a VINTAGE HUNTER.

[paul87buick]

Got mine today santa new I was good ps its#16023,the one on numrich ad was 16555.limited numbers ?

[Peter Laidler]

In reply to your email vintage hunter. It's the 4 screws holding the cover plate down, - the plate that sits between the two raised rings around the circumference of the scope body.

The up and down movement of the grat in the verical plane isn't good as such but indicates a degree of backlash. But as the grat returns to its original place, it means that the backlash had been taken up, presumably by a spring. So I'd ignore it.

It's difficult to trouble shoot the deflection problem because the deflection cursor is held between a rigid dovetail in the inner sleeve....... But clearly something is wrong and a bent screw is likely but just HOW is the mystery to me, not having been into one of the repros. The first thing is to remove the lead screw and see if it's bent by spinning it in a lathe.

It's a lot easier to trouble shoot rifle problems.................

[Longshaor]

Well, apparently they're no longer here. The listing is gone from Numrich's online catalog. Looks like I'll be ringing them Monday to see if they'll be getting any more.

[MJ1]

You can see the problem in this photo. I had two such brackets and the effort in fitting one to a friends scopeless #4T a lot of hand work and a drill press.

[Longshaor]

I just got off the phone with Numrich, for those of you who (like me) didn't or couldn't get one, they're gone and will probably not be restocked.