Of the 1500 No4 trials rifles converted to snipers

[boltaction]

There is now one of the No. 4 T trials rifle being auctioned on gunbroker: Rare Enfield No.1 Mk 4 Sniper Trials Rifle s/Nice : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com

Well, the description isn't quite accurate. It says all numbers match, but the scope number clearly doesn't match the number on the wrist, which looks from the photos to have been restruck at some point. Scope couldn't be original anyway, as it's a 1945 date. Not that it couldn't have been replaced in service. Nice looking matching Enfield though.

Ed

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[XL39E1]

Not the original forend (unless its fitted with a C pattern forend) or front handguard either, trials forends are very distinctive, fatter and straight in front of the trigger guard! Trials handguards also have brass domed rivets in the caps too!

[Roger Payne]

Pics aren't great for telling for sure but I suspect the butt is probably the only original piece of wood on it.

Surprised nobody has yet commented on the foresight protector!

Having picked it to pieces, it is still a Trials No4 (T) all the same. Like most it has clearly had a checkered career.

[Surpmil]

Pics aren't great for telling for sure but I suspect the butt is probably the only original piece of wood on it.

Surprised nobody has yet commented on the foresight protector!

Having picked it to pieces, it is still a Trials No4 (T) all the same. Like most it has clearly had a checkered career.

Didn't bother to look at the GB photos till now, but what caught my eye was the chopped objective lens sunshade. Still trying to figure that out.

I'm sure you're right that it's been restocked as that is no Model C forend. N92 bracket is obviously not original.

Interesting how the '2' in the original scope number was struck upside down and not corrected.

I keep finding trials rifles in odd corners. This one came from India by way of Springfield Sporters . Interestingly, it kept the wasp waist front sight protector and the unique ball detent rear sight.

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So the Indians didn't grind the Royal Cypher off in all cases then. Or could it be that Pakistan and India had different policies on that? Or was the "Ishapore screw" only found on Indian rifles?

[MJ1]

My head is throbbing from all this reading tonight. Never a dull moment here.

Thank you gentlemen.

[breakeyp]

I keep finding trials rifles in odd corners. This one came from India by way of Springfield Sporters . Interestingly, it kept the wasp waist front sight protector and the unique ball detent rear sight.

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[Roger Payne]

I can only speak of the two or three dozen or so 4T's I've seen that went to India, & all of the rifles that remained in Mk1 guise also retained their original receiver markings, though often augmented with a crudely handstamped going over of the 'No4 Mk1' on the receiver side-wall. The scrubbed rifles were all Mk1/2 conversions. It's logical I suppose, if you're stripping the rifle right down to braze the Mk2 trigger plate onto it, to go the whole hog. Of course, this is just anecdotal observation & might not hold true for all - but it does for those I've seen or owned personally. Afraid I don't know what Pakistan's policy was......

ATB

[breakeyp]

Found another Trials No.4 Mk1(T) that has been to India. As with the other one I have pictured, it has the original rear sight and front sight ears, transverse screw in fore stock. The socket has been dusted with little original markings remaining. The barrel is dated '30 with Axxxx serial number. The actual numbers are punched out. A1655 might be the true serial number.

[Steve H. in N.Y.]

I looked in every corner of my house too and found not one Trials T, just empty beer cans. Thanks for the pics.

[oldhound]

I got one. It has ROF 41 20908A on the socket.
Was not a sniper though.