African Carbines

[DaveHH]

My Dafodills have also popped up. Amazing flowers that women like as much as roses. I've never planted any, they are all just volunteers. The Robins are back too. They used to come every year and eat the Pyracantha and if the berries had been on the plant for a long time, the Robins would get all screwed up like they were drunk. After the war I lived in the back house of a rich Italian man. His wife needed birds to put into her raviolis along with brains and all manner of stuff. I'd plug a half dozen fat Robins with the pellet rifle and she was a happy lady. I had a Sharpshrike that came to my persimmon tree every year and met his wife. They'd nest and have the kids and split. Same bird same tree for about 3 years then never again. That male fought battles with anything that came near the tree. My Persimmon tree normally has maybe 50 nice pieces of fruit. I always left them for the birds. They'd clean them out by March. This year I had one persimmon. We have had the first normal winter rain in about 4 years and the citizens are just going nuts. There are 90% of these Bozos that think that if they drive a Prius and stop mowing the lawn with a gas mower that they will save the planet. I am not joking. It is Egos and Virtue signaling.

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[W5USMC]

His wife needed birds to put into her raviolis along with brains and all manner of stuff.

WTF???

[painter777]

Model-Intro-Discontinued
320B 1960 1966 .22 bolt action single shot target sights, swivels, hammerless design improved firing pin
320BA 1966-1967 same as 320B, change from S137 to S142
rear dovetail sight
320BB 1968-1971 same as 320BA, change in safety assy
320K 1958-1962 .22 single shot bolt action economy sights
320KA 1962-1966 same as 320K improved firing pin
320TR 1961-1962 Targo version of 320K with smooth bore and
rifled tube inserts for 22 cal shot and LR
321B 1971-1974 .22 single shot target sights replaced 320BB
321K 1971-1980 .22 single shot open sights

See page 2:
Chronology of Mossberg Firearms 1919-2019
https://www.mossbergcollectors.org/100-years.pdf

GI Bob, Look again at the parts schematic I posted, that's exactly the same as your Western Auto but has Mossberg at the top. Look at the detail on the bolt.

****GB gun IS a Model 320B with the Rear Peep missing. Why it has the hooded front sight and swivels

[painter777]

Are your sights like the Model 320K ?

320K 1958-1962 .22 single shot bolt action economy sights

Per GI Bob: "It's the 320K"

Part of why I noted there were no factory swivels.


You know I've never sold a gun. Traded some and gave a few away. Lost a few my brother never returned that he used or loaned to cousins I never got back. I came oh so close to buying that one on GB yesterday but I'm sorta over stocked on .22's. I was 5 for 5 on Woodchucks last year but for 1 needed a 2nd shot. 1st shot slid across his breast plate. Better call it 6 for 5.

Don't drive my truck on salted roads

[USGI]

Originally Posted by painter777
Are your sights like the Model 320K ?

Originally Posted by painter777
320K 1958-1962 .22 single shot bolt action economy sights

Per GI Bob: "It's the 320K"

Part of why I noted there were no factory swivels.

Charlie: Hope you're not staying up past your bedtime waiting for me to post. We got home about 3-1/2 hours ago, I got the pictures sorted out and then started looking in old 2011 threads for the grade you gave me on removing the rack numbers off the grip of that SA stock from WAC.

I never did find it, but saw so many interesting threads (many still with pics) that I've spent all evening checking them out - I saw the names of a lot "our guys" that haven't posted in a few years - hope that most of them are still doing OK. Best I can remember, you gave me a grade of B+. Maybe you can find that old post? Whatever grade it was, you deserve at least a "E" for effort!

Like I said earlier, I just downloaded and found my model in that Mossberg PDF today. Otherwise, I had no idea what a 320K was up until now. I only checked your Numrich link a few moments ago, but the bolt shown there is different than mine - likely from an older gun? Mine doesn't have swivels, but if I said something about them it was likely a comment about that one (For Sale) that had the hooded front sight, swivels, etc. My understanding is that the more expensive models were available with factory swivels - believe I saw that shown in the PDF, also.

I'd better get those pictures added so you can see what the .22 looks like. You can't have the Ford, but I've been wondering what you thought of the recent NASCAR ad that showed a new Mustang "Cup Car" (at speed) on the beach at Daytona with the outer envelope flying off - then a '56 Ford sedan (Fireball Roberts) emerges from it and continues the pace. The rest of the video is pretty cool, too. I always wanted a '56, but the closest I ever came was building a model of one when I was kid! Have fun watching the race tomorrow! - Bob

[painter777]

Mine doesn't have swivels,

You never said anything about yours having swivels. With your plain set of sights and stock having no cheek rest or swivels it matches the Mossberg 320K. Made in the time frame your brother gave it to you: 1958-1962. The last 'New' .22 I bought was made almost 3 years before I picked it up from a LGS.

Look at your 320K on the attached chart. Then compare the attached parts lists, compare your Western Auto to the Mossberg list... Same thing, other than Western Auto address on the bottom.

I think of the older house guns or store guns made by the big manufacturers as being basically the same inside but offering cheaper or less expensive accessories like stock wood, sights, grips, trigger guards etc. This way the Prime maker keeps their advantage on the market having the better options....... like a FANCIER BOLT LEVER among other things.

These Primes sold a lot of 'Clone Named Guns' thru Hardware stores, Sears, Montgomery Wards, Woolworth, J.C. Penny, hell even Abercrombie and Fitch.... etc.

[painter777]

Getting off topic can be interesting, We just had 12 Deer in the backyard this evening that attacked my Wife's Hostas that had just broke up thru the sunshine today that worked on melting the latest ice storm, I'd told the wife about it earlier today while spreading some corn and filling the bird feeders. Around 7pm from my bedroom window I watch one big Doe nose bop a bird feeder like a boxer would slow hit a speed bag until all the feed is knocked out then eats it from the pile on the ground. All the while while it's 'Bobbing' it's beady eyes are trained on me while I look on. Same Deer every night. Our state bird is the Robin which you never see during the winter months has been under attack to be replaced by another that's seen more often thru winter. Usually you write on the calendar the 1st sighting which in my area tends to be more like late March or mid April if we're lucky. Dave's Post had me looking at the calendar because this year I spotted my 1st just off the back patio on Feb 7th.....and had 2 witnesses. Easily a new record, days later at -20+ wind chill I was hoping it survived.

GI Bob,
Does your .22 have a Serial number?
Thinking you might be able to use that Mossberg PDF file for start/discontinue dates to narrow down your model. Features are going to determine your 'Letter Prefix'.
Couple more links you can study. On this 1st one, Note the models the Bolt Lever fits from Numrich (Part 19) Bolt Lever, New Factory Original for sale for Mossberg 320BA, 320B, 320K, 320KA, 320TR, 321B, 321K firearm

Mossberg 320B, 320BA, 320K, 320KA, 320TR, 321B, 321K Schematic W/ Parts List: Mossberg 321K Parts | Numrich Gun Parts

Western Auto Revelation Makers Chart
Western Auto - Revelation Firearms

[ssgross]

Getting off topic can be interesting

keep it going I say. I'll bring us back eventually. I have some spare spring sets too. Plenty of combinations to play with.
That GB listing had no receiver - otherwise everything looked salvagable. And it got me digging about something I never knew before, which is always fun.

Robins in ravioli? wouldn't be too weird. there is place called Cafe montmarte in Reston, which specializes in authentic Viet-french cuisine, that is to say French food influenced by the pre-war colonial period in Vietnam, kind of like you brit's and the curries that taste nothing like India anymore. Anyhow, pigeon is on the menu regularly in one form or another.

[painter777]

keep it going I say. I'll bring us back eventually.

And we'll happily step back and focus back in.
But in the mean time Dave's post reminded me of a customers request once they realized we were fishermen to bring them all the fish heads we could bring them for their Fish Head soup.
Friendly professional asian couple. After our annual fishing trip we filled their freezer. They were telling us with their accents: No more, No more

1 more link GI Bob, Clones being Revelation 100 and 100A: Differences between Mossberg 321 vs 321A (And Clones) | Rimfire Central Firearm Forum

Need any more than what I've collected I'll buy the D@mn Rifle and the Truck

[USGI]

Charlie, I can't keep up with you guys! Actually, Iv'e been trying to explain that I've known since I got that gun that it's a "store brand" - just forgot whether my brother told me Marlin or Mossberg. I had the info along with the rear sight differences, etc. all spelled out in that post that disappeared.

It's almost bedtime now that I've finally got back to the forum and found I'm late by a couple of pages. I took some pictures of the gun this afternoon but they're still on the camera and don't know if any of them turned out. Had planned to be back with details before this, but the wife's been on the computer I need most of the time since supper. I'll get back to it sometime tomorrow after I look at all those links!

Next time I'll think twice before giving you an assignment! According to the Blue Book of Gun Values, the Mossberg model that my gun is - was made between 1960 and 1980. It's grouped in with Models 320K and 320K-A -"similar to Model 320B with open sights, no swivels, later models marked 321, 321K." If I don't get back on tomorrow, it will probably be after the race on Sunday. Never know now who's likely to win until the last couple laps though!

If you get a chance, take a look at WAC's new batch of stocks. - Bob