M1 Carbine in an intermediate caliber

[floydthecat]

Pretty sure you guys already know this, but the Ruger PC 9 was the old style. The new ones are just "PC Carbine" - probably because they knew at the time more calibers would be added. I've had one for about 4 years and haven't shot it yet. Bought it because the ammo was so cheap at the time. Yes, that tungsten weight makes it heavy! - Bob

Pretty sure there are lots of us out here that made decisions based on cheap ammo. The days of 14 to 15-cent 9mm might be gone, but comparing it to everything else in todays environment, it’s still cheaper to shoot.

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[USGI]

Yep, bought a bunch of it for about that price or a bit less, along with the Glock mags. When I bought my Mini-30, the Russian ammo was about 6-7 cents. - Bob

[imarangemaster]

Yep, its just an old habit to say PC9 (which looked like a 9mm 10-22). Trips off the tongue easier than Ruger PC Carbine! I have about 2,000 to 3,000 rounds of assorted 9mm, since I already have a bunch of 9mm pistols. Most of it was bought 2 years ago or more when it was $12 a box of 50. The Federal 9BPLE +P+ 115s move out at more than 1615 fps and give about 670 ft lbs ME from the Ruger Carbine. VERY snappy! I have about 300 rounds of it for my Glock 19. It gets about 1400 fps from the 9BPLE.

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I have to say, I am smitten with the Mini-30. If a Mini-14 is an M1 Carbine with a "stiffy" a Mini-30 is an M1 Carbine on a double dose of Viagra! I get 2550 fps from a 125 grain Hornady OTM using H4198!

[imarangemaster]

Jim, what about Mini-14 and Mini-30 up there? They have 18.5" barrels.

[browningautorifle]

Mini-14 and Mini-30

Both are now prohibited by order in council.

[painter777]

OT

I remember years ago my Father would take us and friends goose hunting in Ontario. No big hassle.
Today if you can get by the US Dept of Homeland Security, Border control, ICE, background checks and only God knows who else to make it to the Canadian border. Once at the border then deal with the Canadian Border Services agency with all the pre-prepared paperwork, then inspections. Plus figuring out your licenses and restricted areas. It's crazy and just not worth it. And now we have Covid restrictions.
Just fishing got so complicated years back we gave it up. I can hunt Geese here but sure miss Fishing out north of Prince Albert. Fished Quebec but was robbed, the back country locals didn't care for Americans eating their fish.

I recall a friends Dad heading up with his older buddies when the RCMP / Border law found a empty .22 casing under the seat. They were detained for nearly 20hrs while that new truck's interior was stripped. Including the dashboard.
When we heard about it later on none of us had the ba!!s to tell them it was us that had shot .22 pistols from inside the cab. We missed a case while policing the interior.

Imagine in 10 years it will be like crossing the Berlin Wall.
I feel for my northern friends and miss that beautiful country.

Crossing the Canada US Border: How to Legally Bring Your Hunting Rifle into Canada | Northern Ontario Travel

https://www.ice.gov/investigations/astp/faq

[floydthecat]

Use to make a motorcycle tour of western Canada every year. After taking two hours to get across the border last time (complete with dope sniffing dog routine), had to give it up.

If only our southern border was as tight.

[DaveHH]

I used to love going up to BC. Vancouver was one of the most beautiful cities on the planet, clean, safe, reasonably priced. Taxes were weird, you paid more for a bottle of cheap wine than the whole salmon dinner. $35 for a case of beer. I understand that it is a filthy mess now. Awful drug problems.

They used to have these border skirmishes where US side would close up all of the checkpoints to screw with Canadians. I was sitting in a long line of ****ed off Canadians waiting, when the US border guy steps out of the booth sees my Calif. plates and motions me to come up to the closed booth. This was jumping the line on about 15 Canadian cars waiting to cross and buy cigarettes. He said "Do you have anything from THAT country?" I said no and he motioned me through. The horns started honking like a flock of geese.

[browningautorifle]

We used to make a journey to Vancouver to tour the pawn shops along Granville back in the '70's and buy M1 carbines for about $125CDN. You could get all the makers and every possible combination of features you wished. $125CDN was a lot when I was only getting $175CDN per pay...

[imarangemaster]

In the 1980s I was a cop in the Seattle area. We regularly went to Vancouver , Stanley park and the zoo, and points north. Vancouver was a beautiful city back then as you say. Our Boy Scouts participated in the annual celebration at the Peace Arch. My wife got a picture of me joking around and swapping LEO stories with the MountieS and even them handcuffing me LOL. It was much different then.