When it really happens: SHTF...

[usabaker]

The Pandemic and even more all the routing and unrest is making ammo harder and harder to come by in San Diego, California, unless you want to pay 50% more than normal prices for it. I was getting TulAmmo 7.62x39 between 9.00 and 12.00 dollars for a box of 20 rounds, now that same ammo is $20.00 for 20 rounds. Gun Sale up 80% in swing states, this number would be even bigger if there were firearms and ammo to be had.


Gun sales in major swing states up nearly 80% this year: Will it have any bearing on election outcome?

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[fjruple]

Well it is time for another update on the gun business in New Jersey. Another wave of "shoppers" is hitting the shop after the Louisville, KY protest. Mostly all are new to the world firearms. The shop found a supplier who has been a god send for the shop. Glocks and Sig Sauer are still primer 9mm handgun to purchase, it seems that many are being sold by wholesalers directly on gun sales web sites for well above the MSRP. And they are get the prices, which leaves the small shops like us looking for anything that shoots a 9mm cartridge. There appears to be little or no hunting season this year as just about all firearms and ammunition being produced are tactical in nature. Tactical rifles is 5.56mm, Tactical shotguns in 12 and 20 gauge, and any 9mm handguns. The shop received yesterday about 75 9mm handguns, made by S&W, FNH, a Walther Q5, Girshan copies of the Glock and Beretta 92G. We also received a nice package of 12 guage pump shotgun from Black Aces which includes an extra 28" barrel and extended magazine tube, pistol grip and folding stock in a hard roller Boyd type case, really nice. we also received a bunch of Steven AR 5.56mm type platforms which will have to be made NJ compliant before they leave the shop. Also 6 Troy A4 Others in 5.56mm with a 10.5 inch barrel. I did notice that Troy changed the configuration of their lowers on their gun. Ammunition is still very hard to get only one case of 9mm to last the week. We will probably only allow one box sale with a 9mm handgun purchase. Got several cases of 9mm hollow points but they are illegal in NJ for self-defense. People still buys them. Today should be a madhouse to purchase firearms and ammunition. It looks like it will be another end of the day bourbon night. LOL!! Stay healthy and well armed!!

[Ovidio]

And, again, enjoy the bourbon!

[Aragorn243]

Glad I stockpile ammo and never shoot any of it. Finally made me a wise gun owner. I started buying more as soon as I got wind of this pandemic and for the first time ever, the wife didn't complain. Still buying on occasion but now it's mostly hunting rounds because that's all there is.

Our "fair" started last night and runs till tomorrow evening. Seven food vendors. Carneys who make their living doing this but no possible way they are making any money this year. Our fair has at least 50 of them for six full days. These poor bastards get three short evenings. Better than nothing I suppose and there were big lines for 5 out of the 7. The two that didn't have lines really didn't have to prepare anything, just show up fully stocked. Soft ice cream and the candy apple, cotton candy guys. Football game had spectators tonight but looked like families. The band was allowed to attend tonight also so there was more normalcy to it. We still watched on TV. My wife and I don't want to take away someone's opportunity when they have a kid there in the band, cheerleaders or on the football team.

As for Walmart, we've had to wear masks for months in the store and that hasn't changed. A lot of people didn't and they never really enforced it but the vast majority wear them.

[Aragorn243]

Something's bothering me. I'm a numbers guy as you guys know by now. My home state of Pennsylvania has a higher mortality rate from Covid than Italy does. Yet there was never any sort of real problem here from Covid. The hospitals were never overrun, not even in Philly. Most people don't even know anyone who died from it. Yet Italy is portrayed here at least as a disaster area with coffins piled up all over the place. I'm assuming this actually happened in one or two places but not all over Italy. I know how the media works. I also understand that Europeans think the United States is some sort of disaster area due to all the media reports when in actuality we are doing our best to go about our normal lives despite what the state governors are restricting us too. Mortality rates as a whole in the US are much lower than nearly every "western" nation in the world despite our "huge" numbers.

[Gil Boyd]

Steve,
When this ALL settles down, I am sure stuff will be released that throws a lot of what we are doing as humans currently, into serious doubt, but until then WE as mere mortals have to conntinue to be gulible and follow scientific advice (or is that Government) who knows???

Even experts like my son in the Army who worked on Ebola in Sierra Leone for 6 months, can't join up the dots.................suffice it to say.............its not as straight forward as we are all to believe.
Time will tell and hopefully the "cause" will be held to some form of accountability, as its clear we can't go through a world wide pandemic like this again, 102 years after the last one!!!

[Merle]

Steve,
When this ALL settles down, I am sure stuff will be released that throws a lot of what we are doing as humans currently, into serious doubt, but until then WE as mere mortals have to conntinue to be gulible and follow scientific advice (or is that Government) who knows???

Even experts like my son in the Army who worked on Ebola in Sierra Leone for 6 months, can't join up the dots.................suffice it to say.............its not as straight forward as we are all to believe.
Time will tell and hopefully the "cause" will be held to some form of accountability, as its clear we can't go through a world wide pandemic like this again, 102 years after the last one!!!

well, not to be rude, but it seems you have a lot more faith in scientist (and govt) than I do.
especially noticeable with all the "reversals" coming to light....

[Ovidio]

And then...it’ll be too late to call someone to take responsibility...
We, as single human beings, can only follow the minimal rules of sensible behaviour for what we can understand right now. But I‘d really like to have the chance of addressing things face to face with those who might be recognised as responsible...even if in 20 years from now. I love milsurps ‘cause they tend to work even if veeeeery old...

[Ovidio]

So so..., after seven months, today we met our friends from the winter holidays.
We were together during the carnival week at the end of February, just before the lockdown.
We have three kids, one boy with 17 years, and two girls with 14 and 10. They have three girls with 16, 13 and 6 years.
We meet in the mountains since 2008 and are very good, if distanced!, friends.
The kids really enjoy each others company.
This family is from Trieste, less than 100 km from here, but during the past months we never found a moment to meet.
Today was the day.
The kids grew up a lot, all of them. They just fell into each others arms as soon as they met.
We did the same with the parents.
It was a great moment of a wonderful day.
We’ll keep meeting in the mountains for our week of skying, as we did in the past 8 years.

Lately I started analyzing this pandemonium...
I hate to feel being manoeuvered, manipulated, forced to accept things and situations I don’t like.
But, if I look at all of this from another angle, a very private and intimate one, I must admit that this pandemics has changed my life for best.
I know I’m priviledged. I work with the food and pharma industry, so this situation has not damaged me in any way, maybe it could almost be considered neutral.
But it kept me home. Reduced my travel time by 80-90%.
I have been with my wife from before my military duty. Actually, from 1992.
Apart from the first 18 months before military, until July 1994, I have never been home for more than 10-15 days in a row.
Now I have traveled for less than 20 days in 7 months.
If I had to take a bet, I would have bet that I would drive crazy after two weeks.
In fact, I have never enjoyed myself, my family...life! as much as I did since the start of this foolish thing.
Today, meeting this family, people we meet each and every year, but only on the sky tracks, I again got this feeling of... I can’t explain.
I was so happy, so thoroughly, deeply, strongly alive...glad to meet good people...
This pandemic is crap, but it made me change my life. It brought me back to the real values.
I’m scared to write it down in clear, plain words, but it made me a better person.
Sincerely...I don’t want to go back to “normal” life.
I want to keep traveling at a lower pace, making skype or teams meetings for all those “trivial” reasons for which I wasted so much time, family time, before.
I said that earlier! I’m priviledged right now, working for the food and pharma industy, but I feel like it was time to somehow slow down and start focusing again on the real values...my kids, my wonderful, loving, unbelievably great and savvy wife.
I love life as I never did before.
Just felt I had to tell it to someone...
Keep looking ahead my friends!

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

I said that earlier! I’m priviledged right now, working for the food and pharma industy, but I feel like it was time to somehow slow down and start focusing again on the real values...my kids, my wonderful, loving, unbelievably great and savvy wife.
I love life as I never did before.
Just felt I had to tell it to someone...
Keep looking ahead my friends!

It seems you are very fortunate indeed.
I would say your family is as well as you seem insightful and quite focused on what is really important.