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Two “distinctly different” U.S. Civil War bayonets.
Last edited by drm2m; 03-28-2009 at 10:53 PM.
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03-28-2009 09:55 PM
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David, I have a bayonet that look's a lot like the one you have. It has no name, the blade is 25in. on the blade near the handle is the date 1862, on top of the handle is c 2826 2 16 there are no other marking's. Any idea's? Thanks. lboos.
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lboos,
Reilly’s book United States Military Small Arms 1816-1865 has sketches of bayonets associated with U.S. long arms of this period with their overall length and blade length.
I am certainly not an expert on U.S. Civil War saber bayonets but if you can give me the exact blade length (25”?) and overall length….. I will see if I can give you some ideas.
The bayonet shown in my photos above is 27-1/4 inches overall with a 22-1/2 inch blade. There were three types of bayonets for the Model 1841 rifle.
The bayonet measurements for the Model 1855 rifle were 26-1/2 inches overall with a 21-3/4 inch blade.
In looking through this book I have not seen any references to a brass-hilted saber bayonet with a 25 inch blade.
David
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David,
The blade is 25-7/16 inches
The overall is 30-1/4 inches
Thank you. lboos.
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Sorry lboos, I don't think I can help you.
There were other European manufactured brass-hilted bayonets of this style i.e. the French from which much U.S. stuff was copied. ....sword patterns etc.
Hopefully someone else has some ideas, or find a bayonet collecting forum where the experts hang out.
David
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I think this may be a "mystery bayonet" that is shown in Albert Hardin's book The American Bayonet 1776-1964 as bayonet #97. He identifies it as the Merrill Navy Rifle, Model 1862, but also states that the identification is in question as it is based on a Merrill Rifle with this style bayonet attached in the Marine Corps Museum. He states that it will also fit the Model 1841 rifles but he doubts that it was made for any of them.
No recent research to my knowledge has turned up any better identification of this bayonet, and I personally feel that it is still unidentified. It is not impossible that it is of European origin although what few references I have on them does not show anything just like this one.
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Bayonetman,
Thank you also for your time and intrest. maybe one day i'll find out.
"mystery bayonet". I kinda like that. lboos.
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