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    Siamese mauser

    I was by The Dealers Warehouse in Modesto, Ca this AM. I am looking for a decent Gew98 barreled receiver. I got one there 2 years back. No more! But did find a small box of Siamese Mauser stripped barreled receivers. Most looked new to me. Just a heads up on this.
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    Just saw a Siamese Mauser at my local gun shop today. Its late but i never heard of this one or don't remember it in the book but will look it up this week end. The thing I saw on it was a cover over the mag exit that you can slide forward so the casing can fly out. What is the purpose of this and is it only on these Mausers, can it be removed, should it be removed,or is this an addition and not correct to the rifle? I think I'm typing in my sleeeepp.......

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    Not sure what you mean

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveN View Post
    The thing I saw on it was a cover over the mag exit that you can slide forward so the casing can fly out. What is the purpose of this and is it only on these Mausers, can it be removed, should it be removed,or is this an addition and not correct to the rifle? I think I'm typing in my sleeeepp.......

    Ok, get some sleep first, then you can answer this question: From your post I am not sure if you are referring to a cover on the TOP of the magazine, i.e. a magazine cut-off, as was used on early Lee-Enfields, or on the BOTTOM, in which case the spring and follower would fall out first, followed by the cartridges. I do not know of either as a feature on the Siamese Mausers, which were actually made by Arisakaicon, so they have some mixed features. Including the dust cover over the bolt (an Arisaka feature).

    Out of action, this cover sits over the bolt. In action, when a round is loaded, the cover is pushed forwards, thus uncovering the bolt and the magazine when the bolt is pulled back after firing - are you perhaps referring to that? If so, it is a perfectly normal and correct feature of these rifles.

    I am a wee bit confused. Please clarify.

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    Yes the 2nd one you mention. It is over the bolt and thanks for the info.

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    Expensive feeding, I fear

    Fine, all clear, and good luck if you want to shoot it! The Siamese Mauser will be a problem to feed!


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    Not buying and thanks for the advice. My next will hopefully be a 1903 Springfield, or a GEWicon 98.

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    I have two Siamese Mausers built on different actions. Both are full length, the one with the Gew 98 style action and the action cover slides forward. The second one is built on an Arisakaicon action with the bolt cover going back and forth with the movement of the bolt.

    I picked up a complete stock for a Siamese Mauser, then came across a cleaning rod after that.

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    I have a Siamese Mauser that I picked up almost one year ago. Fascinating rifle to take apart and examine its construction and on the whole a neat little rifle (or neat "long" rifle unless you can be fortunately to stumble on one of the super rare carbines.) It is indeed hard to feed and will require some resourcefulness. There is a gentleman selling ammo for these rifles (8x52R in most cases since it it appears that 99% of the ones encountered are converted from their original 8x50R) at around $50 for 20 rounds, reloadable of course and I believe RCBS is making dies for them. Myself a buddy of mine have been debating going half and half on the cost of the dies ($30ish I think) and powder/brass/bullets and reloading to shoot. The only thing is that of all my rifles, I seriously doubt my shooting experience will be such that I find it necessary to have more than 10 rounds at any given time for this beast, especially since I only have one at the moment. So, for those interested in feeding one, you might just bite the bullet (pun intended) and buy the $50 for 20 and shoot it like a Martini-Henry- rarely. I would like to be able to say I have shot mine more than anything else but I am in no real hurry so... In terms of original ammo... good luck. Original rounds usually sell high and are pretty uncommon to rare. If I remember correctly, a friend of mine who collects cartridges had last seen an original stripper clip of 8x52R at auction go for nearly $1000. That's $200 per round!! Now, I've seen individual rounds go for less than $100 but still, that's a lot of money. If I ever get around to shooting mine, I'll be sure to take pictures and post results here. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m4a3sherman View Post
    ...... Original rounds usually sell high and are pretty uncommon to rare. If I remember correctly, a friend of mine who collects cartridges had last seen an original stripper clip of 8x52R at auction go for nearly $1000. That's $200 per round!! Now, I've seen individual rounds go for less than $100 but still, that's a lot of money. If I ever get around to shooting mine, I'll be sure to take pictures and post results here. Cheers!
    Wow!

    I lived in Bangkok a couple years, used to go by the gun shops in "old town" once in a while. They were selling original arsenal ammo but it wasn't any $200 per round. Thailand is one of the more gun-friendly countries in Asia, and the Siamese/Thai government has always gone after the best when it came to weapons.

    First time I was in-country, my in-laws gave us the big bed in the big house. One night my new wife told me there were long guns under the bed. So we broke off what we were doing and looked. 2 muzzle-loaders and a Spencer infantry rifle that her grandfather had carried during the war between the royalists and the 1932 military government.

    One more reason to visit Thailand. But there are plenty of others.

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    I've been to thailand a number of times but it never occurred to me to look for a gun shop. My wife is in trouble next time we go

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