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Saginaw stamping
Hi, I got a Saginaw carbine the other day and I have a quick question before pic's taken.-- Stamping is erratic Saginaw\ S'S'GG ( S and G are are cut in half) I know one would have to see it to understand and the barrel is Underwood ( Unde od with just a 3 below and just the O of the ordnance bomb. S/n 1873xxx Thanks for your time and patience and If your head is shaking (so is mine). Any comments appreciated. RJB.
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06-20-2009 10:45 AM
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Your new carbine comes from the serial number block that was originally assigned to Irwin-Pedersen. This serial block started at 1,762,520 and ended with 1,875,039. Part way through IP's contract was cancelled and the rest of that block was taken over by Saginaw Steering Gear. These are the first of the S'G' carbines made in Grand Rapids Michigan. A number of odd stampings have been reported during this serial number block. I would imagine there was quite a bit of confusion during the take over. S'G' trying to use any left over IP parts etc.
Pictures of your markings would be of interest. Maybe the receiver was double stamped or had bounced causing a double strike (?) I have a 1,823,135 S'G' with the original barrel...a Underwood dated 8-43. Looking forward to pictures of your's. Here's mine and hope I helped a little.
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Charlie-painter777
Last edited by painter777; 06-20-2009 at 12:09 PM.
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I'd like to see a pic as well.
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Curt,
If he doesn't post pics...........are you going to Kung Fu his A$$?
LMAO
Charlie
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Thanks Painter 777 Some info on carbine-- trigger housing-Q-NL / hammer-W/ sear-RI / bolt -Rockola / recoil plate -DI / Band unmarked but sling swivel-UP / op slide appears CC / mag-AI Will take pic's at weekend, Don't know how to post pic's but should have them for e-mail. rjb223@sympatico.ca Thanks again.
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I load my pictures from the camera to desk top to photobucket. Once on photobucket I high light and copy the IMG code and paste it into the post here. Always a good idea to 'Preview your reply' before you post to make sure your pics are attached.
Sounds like you have a re-build/mixer. Some great people here that will come forward and offer up trades for parts you need vs parts you have. If I had a extra S'G' bolt......I'd be offering it up for your RMC bolt. Your band marked with the UP on the swivel is a hard one to find ($$).
Looking forward to seeing your carbine.
I was going to give you a heads up about JohnR's post with a S'G' close to yours and his quest for correct parts to restore his. But I see you found it.
The parts you seek are pricey.........becareful of the repro parts out there. If in doubt ask the members here.
A good weekend to you.
Regards
Charlie-painter777
P.S. never seen a Op slide marked CC (?)
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Thanks for your help and advice C-P 777. I looked deeper for ref. to CC and came up with commercial controls apparently took over NPM. have to check further. Have a good week-end, RJB.
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RJB,
Commercial controlc are so friggen rare they never pop into mind !!
Please get a picture of that.
I see with the projects your working on.....have you considered joining the Carbine Club/
A good evening to you..
Off to the casino..
Charlie-painter777
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let's see If I can do this. No' can't attach pic's file too large--- will try photobucket!! as suggested.