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Type-I Brittle action prone to break???
Last edited by jeep; 08-08-2010 at 05:03 PM.
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08-08-2010 03:04 PM
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Going through my archives on the Type-I,( I-means Italian) . I have reread the data. Not trusted because of national pride the ones that were shipped to the south Pacific by Italian merchantships then loaded onto Japanese submarines to avoid detection. Most were never used and were stored in warehouses till after the war. The ones that were not bombed and later dumped into Tokyo bay after the war were shipped home by G.I.s in 1945 who did not even know they were not Arisaka,s. A few cases made it to the surplus market in the early 1950,s There is no proof they were used in combat and none that were not used by the Navy or there Marines or post war military Japanese police. So there are not many around.
Last edited by jeep; 08-08-2010 at 06:00 PM.
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I bought the remnants of one of these rifles a few years ago. The extractor had been broken.
I later bought a complete rifle and it is prone to having the rim hang up on the extractor. It is easy to see how an extractor could be broken on one.
FWIW an Italian Carcano extractor is not the same part.
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They were made to prewar berretta standards and are very smooth and high grade machined. From what I heard the barrel specs and chambers are match grade and shoot better than the M38,s. Mine has a 3 digit ## The Germans did supply some some K98,s and vz Cezh 24,s.in small numbers. Some say the TypeI,s were shipped in the white and blued and stained in Japan,but this not true. The finish is not Japanese Urishsa,But 100% Italian and the same stain finish on wood , fine smooth polished pre-war blue used on prewar MP/38 smg,s and finer than most of the Carcano,s which got ruff in wartime. Alot of Type-I,s were used up and beat up as hunting rifles stateside. There is no mum or markings on the Type I other than the serial ## number and no there are no import marks . These few crates that hit stateside surplus were pre-1968 and in the early1950,s. Interesting Axis WW2 JApanese rifle.
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I have a nice one now and have had others and all were well made. The only difference I have found is some have a butt stock 1 inch shorter. Some bolt parts will interchange but not the bolt as the ejector is at a different location and another groove would have to be cut in the bottom of the bolt if used. Chambers are tighter and cases do not swell like the T38. I think the reason they are not held in high regard is they are half breeds, neither Japanese or Carcano collectors are very fond of them. I have never heard of them having brittle actions. riceone
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My Type I chamber dimensions seem to be the exact same as the Japanese Type 38.
The rifling is the rounded lands and grooves segmental type same as the Type 38.
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I assume its the same Metford type rifling. Will have to bench it for a group. It seems production figures may be 90,000 to 100,000 range. But thats still very ,very small compared to other types of Japanese service rifles. And yes it was a service rifle of the axis Japanese in the big one WW2.
Last edited by jeep; 08-29-2010 at 05:45 PM.
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I collect Carcanos and Arisakas mostly and have just picked up a beautiful Type 1 Arisaka. Oddly the same week I pick up a sporterized Type 1 on Gun Brokers, figure the odds of that. The Type 1 seems like a quality rifle and I certainly will fire it before I tuck it away.
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