Odd markings on hex 91/30

[mbogo3]

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[WarPig1976]

Unit marking..? Could be the photo,but they look newer then the other stamps. Never saw these before there not factory marks that's for sure.
What's the story of these three?

[WarPig1976]

Look here= Mosin Nagant Rifle Guide to Proofs and Markings
Pic #1..Russian eagle

[mbogo3]

I know the first one is a ex -Dragoon modernized to a 91/30 with a 42 barrel ,the second has a mystery #40 in a box to the left of the serial # .Last is a 27 .............all Tula's.Handpicked 10 from 80 rifles.Bores at VG or better am wondering about values? Also have 38,42 +43 Tula round receivers......diamonds are re-ferb stamps...........Harold

[WarPig1976]

Refurb mark? By who, the Russian mark is a square with a line through it.
Who knows what the #40 is these rifles have all kinds of unknown markings. It's interesting you have the Soviet symbol and the imperial eagle on the same rifle.

[mbogo3]

These guns were refurbished and stored complete with Russian armory letter and date last inspected. The Diamond as well as the square with a line through it appears on the wood and sometimes the metal. The Imperial eagle has a replaced 42 barrel on it but is in VG+ condition inside and out.Likely a salvaged action went through the refurb process.Came with oiler,tool kit and mismatched cruciform bayonet.Russians love to throw accessories in the bluing tanks together with no thought about keeping parts matching or like the RC K98's toss the cleaning rods and capture screws!As for the #40 it appears to have been placed at the same time as the serial # as it is offset for it to fit in place.

[WarPig1976]

Interesting rifles Harold, I have seen diamonds with numbers and letter/symbols on stocks, my M44 has one with an I or H depending how you look at it, none of my 3 other 91/30s have one anywhere, but never seen one stamped on the receiver like yours.
The odd thing is the only reference to diamond markings is that there Polish and unknown at that..
Funny thing thing is I think your asking about the #40 and I'm baffled by the diamonds..
Thanks for sharing....

[mbogo3]

Yes,the diamonds are a little different than the box and line like they plastered all over the SKS's.At least there is no importer's name and address on the Canadian guns.......heading out to shoot a couple........Harold

[Aragorn243]

The diamonds are probably Polish "Technical Control or Acceptance" markings which were used between 1948-1965. They used letters, numbers or symbols inside the diamond to provide some sort of information. As one of the shown examples is a simple dot, it would make sense that an empty diamond also has meaning.

If Poland was receiving these rifles from the Soviets after the war and refurbing them for use, I guess it makes sense. It just seems awful late in the life of one of these to get such a mark.

[mbogo3]

Only thing is I have the Russian armory letter with each gun stating they were last inspected Jan/13 so perhaps they were returned at some point after reburb by Poland? They must have missed grinding off the Imperial eagle on the ex-Dragoon.