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    Mystery magazine???

    I have this mystery mag which I have no idea for what it's intended for other than it looks to be for a smg of some description and it appears to be for use with 9mm pistol rounds. I purchased it at a show because I thought, working off memory, that it looked like it could be suitable to display with my U.K. deactivated Hotchkiss smg but as soon as I got home and compared it, I realised that it's not. It didn't cost a great deal of money and so I'm not out of pocket but I am very curios as to what application it's for. It doesn't appear to be for anything common that I've seen before and the profile is almost triangular.

    I am open to any thoughts or ideas as to what it may be for. Thanks for any information and help.
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    It does look very familiar......probably a Carl Gustav M45 derivative which was sold under licence to the Egyptians, its the crown and C stamp that throws me there. It was a 9x19mm 36 round mag in Luger/Parabellum and NATO. Not sure what happened to it after the Isreali's captured thousands during one of their wars. Might be miles off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    probably a Carl Gustav M45 derivative
    That does seem correct, some one of the group of Swedishicon K mags, or Port Said SMG as the Egyptians called them.
    Regards, Jim

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    Egyptian K I believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Egyptian K
    Yes, I only meant the pattern.
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    Thanks Gil and Jim for identifying the magazine. I wouldn't have guessed the Carl Gustav/Egyptian K smg mag. The wire stock arrangement looks very similar to the Belgiumicon Vigneron smg.

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    The magazine is definitely Swedishicon, not Egyptian. The Crown-C on the spine is an inspector's or acceptance stamp denoting the Carl Gustafs rifle factory in Sweden. The same stamp appears on the gun itself, over the chamber.

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    Here's the one I had in 1980, a Swedishicon Carl Gustav SMG. About new when I got it but not when I returned it. Note the mag.

    For those of you familiar with the area, it's the old refugee camp up by old Nicosia airport. Summer of 1980, 41 degrees Celcius...nice...
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    Thanks for posting the pictures, Jim. I'm interested in the bayonet. Was this bayonet used with just this smg or was it used with a number of different weapons?

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    It was issued along with, I was shocked because I had one for years myself and didn't know what it was for. There's a carbine it started out issued along with, you can find by using it's original name. Third set of pics down the page. Swedish Mauser - Wikipedia

    Here's the official poop according to Bayonet World... Sword bayonet for use with the 6.5 mm. M1894/14 Mauser Carbine. This bayonet also mounts to the 9 mm. Carl Gustaf Submachine Gun m/1945C (Kulsprutepistol m/1945C).

    Here's the page... Bayonets of Sweden
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