Added an IBM tonight

[Rustship]

Got an IBM off of a trade for one of my Pistols tonight. It's a Post WW2 rebuild, but has a nice IO Inland stock. No Cartouche's other than IO in the sling well and an IO handguard. Got a Marlin Barrel that's in good shape. Over all the gun looks good. I replaced the gas nut cause it was buggered up and the slide had hit the last thread or two, got that fixed. Looks like a good shooter. I valued that S &W 9mm at about $500.00, so what do you guys think?

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[phil441]

I'd say, good deal.

[Tired Retired]

As a mixmaster/shooter the carbine is well worth $500 IMHO... But I got to ask, what was the S&W 9mm? You may have gotten a better deal than you think (or you may have broke even) ...

[Rustship]

Tired,
It was a model 3913 9mm, Grandson raised HAVOC until he saw this carbine. Now he thinks I made a good swap. I had just taken him last month to the shooting range to shoot that pistol, and he did good. But he likes carbines too. That's cause he know he is getting them one day from his GrandPaw LOL.

[Tired Retired]

I would say that you got the better part of the deal, even for a mixmaster. I can see where your grandson would have liked it (compact, easy on small hands, etc), but the carbine is definitely the cooler of the two toys.

I was curious about a couple of things on your grandson's new toy.... The trigger housing has the oil hole drilled but it looks like a Q-NL marked type II or III (can't see the rear lugs). Also, it looks like a type II slide but that looks like a hand-eched N 9 in the bottom?? (I really need to either get coffee or learn how to focus this computer screen in the morning). Got any more pics of those areas?

Oh, and haven't I already given you the lecture about how terrible it is of you to get your grandson addicted to collecting and shooting firearms???? Typical grandfather... Spoil them then send them home !!

[frankderrico]

Rusty, I think you have a nice IBM there. It's to bad you had to trade, but I've done it myself a couple of times. I don't like to give up any of my guns, but when you get something you will use for something with no sentimentle value and just sits for something you'll use and like, hey go for it. Those Win. parts are interesting and thats a nice looking Inland stock. Let us know how it shoots. Is that #4 for you now?.....Frank

[Rustship]

Rusty, I think you have a nice IBM there. It's to bad you had to trade, but I've done it myself a couple of times. I don't like to give up any of my guns, but when you get something you will use for something with no sentimentle value and just sits for something you'll use and like, hey go for it. Those Win. parts are interesting and thats a nice looking Inland stock. Let us know how it shoots. Is that #4 for you now?.....Frank

Yep,
Inland, Standard Products, National Postal Meter, and IBM. Time to move on and look for Underwood, Saginaw, Rockola, Quality. Dont think I'll bother with IP, I'm just a Telephone Man and I dont make that kind of money. Now, what else did I leave out, did I catch them all.

[Rustship]

You know, that pistol did have a little bit of sentiment. Most all of the guns I owned were passed down by my Dad. But, when he was alive, thats all he did was trade, buy, and give to us kids. Most of the guns he dealt with were hard to find items, but anytime I made a transaction he said if thats what you want do it. In 84 or 85 at a gun show in Houston with him, I borrowed $425.00 to buy an UZI model A, He told me I had rocks in my head, but in 91,92, or 93 when the assault weapon ban took place and we were at his favorite Pistol Range, the store had an UZI model A in the showcase for sale for $5500.00. My dad looked at me and said well, I guess you dont have rocks in your head. LOL, and I miss him alot! So, moral of the story - I dont think he would have minded.

[Harlan (Deceased)]

You know, that pistol did have a little bit of sentiment. Most all of the guns I owned were passed down by my Dad. But, when he was alive, thats all he did was trade, buy, and give to us kids. Most of the guns he dealt with were hard to find items, but anytime I made a transaction he said if thats what you want do it. In 84 or 85 at a gun show in Houston with him, I borrowed $425.00 to buy an UZI model A, He told me I had rocks in my head, but in 91,92, or 93 when the assault weapon ban took place and we were at his favorite Pistol Range, the store had an UZI model A in the showcase for sale for $5500.00. My dad looked at me and said well, I guess you dont have rocks in your head. LOL, and I miss him alot! So, moral of the story - I dont think he would have minded.

I miss my Dad everyday too Rustship. He was bigger than life. It has been ten years and I still dream about him like I saw him Yesterday. He sounds a lot like your Dad Rustship. While growing up he gave me several guns and a couple of the guns I traded off or sold after he passed away young from a brain tumor, were just guns he casually gave to me. I never traded off anything very interesting, or very valuable (He traded modern pistols and hunting rifles all the time and had a full spectrum of cheap to very expensive. (He just bought what he wanted or found interesting at the moment)

He had a huge collection of some VERY valuable modern guns though. He had a full collection of Belgium made Browning Citories (sp?) in every caliber, and he had an almost complete set of Browning semi auto rifles. He also had a full collection of every caliber of Remington 1100's in every caliber in including 16 and 410 gauge. Tons of other rifles, such as a Marlin lever action in 30 cal carbine, and a Marlin lever action in 357 mag.
(He had a Trapdoor one of his business big-shots gave him) - He wasn't interested in it all and he gave it to me. I didn't even know what it was until years later and I had gotten into milsurps. (I still have it and would never get rid of it, even though it's not very valuable)

He had a HUGE handgun collection of everything you can imagine. Cheap pistols all the way up to very high dollar pistols like the new then, desert eagle 44 mag. He died suddenly and my mom went nuts selling off all kinds of his property, including three cars he and I were restoring and a WWII jeep we were restoring and she sold his entire gun collection to a wholesaler for pennies on the dollar. (Another painful story I won't delve into) Some of what she sold to the wholesaler scumbag leach were even my guns I had left in his gun safes! She said that she didn't want bad feelings between us kids, so she sold off everything and didn't even tell us!

I still have his favorite hunting rifle that he gave me when he was sick with the brain tumor (243 Mannlicher) -
He got it for a song from a little hardware store when I was a kid and he must have told the story a 1000 times.

He was a Korean War vet, and I feel he'd be happy with my collection.
Most of the civilian guns I traded off were my own civilian guns I'd bought since I was a kid. I had no interest in them, and I had given up gun hunting back when my dad was still alive and I have hunted only with a bow every since. I never spent family money for any of my milsurps (Money from my pay check ALL went to my family account) - I bought all of my milsurp collection by saving money from eBay sales of 'crap' and trading off guns such as a 44 'pug' of a manufacture I don't remember. I checked Gunbroker finished sales for all of the civilian guns I traded off or sold at shows and got whatever the going prices were.

Just want to say again, I think you made an outstanding trade! JMO, as always, I'd have made that trade for your IBM in a New York minute!
GREAT story about the UZI! - I bet both of our dads would have approved of our trades where we traded 'UP' - My dad always said he wasn't 'married' to anything he had in his huge collection other than his Mannlicher that he got for a song from a local hardware store when I was a kid.
(Different story)

~ Harlan

[Rustship]

What type of mag is that?
Any markings on that frt sight?
It might just be me wishing on your part, but I swear when I blow the picture up showing the right rear side and buttplate I can see remnants of a CC.
Really nice looking grain on that stock.

You and your grandson enjoy that !
Let us know how it shoots...

Regards,
Charlie-painter777

P.S. Serial Range?

I miss my Dad a lot too, and he while growing up he gave me a couple of the ones I traded of. Nothing very interesting, or very valuable (He traded modern pistols and hunting rifles all the time)
He had a huge collection. He died suddenly and my mom went nuts selling off all kinds of his property and she sold his entire collection to a wholesaler for pennies on the dollar. (Another painful story I won't delve into) Some of what she sold were my guns he had given me growing up that I had left in his gun safes!

I still have his favorite hunting rifle he gave me when he was sick (243 Mannlicher) -

He was a Korean War vet, and I feel he'd be happy with my collection.
Most of the civilian guns I traded off were my own civilian guns I'd put together since I was a kid. I had no interest in them. I never spent family money for any of my milsurps (Money from my pay check ALL went to my family) - I bought all of my milsurp collection by saving money from eBay sales and trading off guns such as a 44 'pug' of a manufacture I don't remember. I checked gunbroker finished sales for all of the civilian guns I traded off or sold at shows and got whatever the going prices were.

Just want to say again, I think you made an outstanding trade! JMO, as always. I'd have made that trade for your IBM in a New York minute!
GREAT story about the UZI! - I bet both of our dads would have approved of both of hour trades where we traded 'UP' - My dad always said he wasn't 'married' to anything he had in his huge collection other than his Mannlicher that he got for a song from a local hardware store when I was a kid.
(Different story)

It's funny you brought that up about Mannlicher's, my dad always talked about them and had several that one of my brothers got when we split up his collection.