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    SMLE with Winchester A5 on Whitehead-Mount

    Yes, it is the rifle which is pictured in all angles in the Knowledge Libraryicon here, but I thought some pictures in very high resolution with a neutral white background would still be appreciated.


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    Man that is neat Georg. I don't know much about these at all. Did WRA actually mount them, or only supply the A5's?

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    Georg, I'm sooooo jealous!

    Whitehead Brothers produced the mounts. Scopes were supplied by Winchester, IIRC in two batches, one in 1915 & one in 1916.
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    There was a thread not to long ago about this scope mount. I had asked the question since the front scope mount was attached to the rear sight protector, how was the rear sight protector attached to the rifle? Was there a method to attach it to the barrel, or was it secured only by the bolt and nut through the stock?

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    Secured in just the same way as on any other SMLE Mr Moose; a terrible design from an engineering point of view, as the front mount is attached to the wooden forend not the barrel of the rifle.

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    Yes, completely ridiculous that the front scope foot is mounted to a wooden stock, where as the rear scope foot is mounted to the receiver. And on top of that, the recoil forced the scope to slide forward and had to be pushed back after every shot. And having such a rifle in hand, you wonder what kind of cripple the shooter had to be, to be able and aim through such an offset scope.

    War and the lack of material often resulted in solutions which appear completely stupid afterwards. But on the other hand this is what makes collecting so awesome.


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    Winchester A5 on the French Lebel rifle

    A small number were tested or used on the Frenchicon Lebel rifleAttachment 80330

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    Those on the Lebel are B4 scopes and not A5. Note the knobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promo View Post
    Those on the Lebel are B4 scopes and not A5. Note the knobs.
    I would point out that the Rings were interchangeable and not specific to the scope.

    The Rings were specific to the distance involved. Thank of the Rings on the Lebel as being a modern capped hunting turret rather that a target adjustable turret (as illustrated on the A5).

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    Yes, a choice of turrets was available. I have a B4 with the same type of target type adjusters on it as the military contract A5's.

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