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1891 Mosin Nagant Infantry Rifle, Soviet Production
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Very nice and awesome that it has antique status.
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Welcome to the 26 club. I have a three digit Tula 1926 M91 that is Finn captured. I believe yours is as well, since the rear sight leaf is a flat plate with two screws, Finn style. No other counties did that. Check the rear sight base for Meter markings in place of the Arshins. The FM on the stock may also indicate Finn ownership a they frequently scratched initials into the stocks. Not every Finn rifle was stamped with a [SA], so you need to look for other indicators. Finns usually stamped the serial number on the bolt, but not other parts. Sometimes they only stamped the last 4 on the bolt handle.
Mine is also on an earlier receiver, as are others out there. There are only a hand full known. Congratulations on the rare find.
Last edited by Homer2; 08-31-2014 at 06:07 AM.
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Your right about the rear sight having the flat plate (looked it up in the Mosin Nagant Rifle by Terence Lapin and online and it is a good indication of a Finnish Rifle as they were the only ones to make that style of rear sight). However there is no SA marks, no sling plugs and the Rear sight was not redone in Meters (or double stamped). I was looking at the bolt and it has a 'R' in a circle on it which apparently according to the Mosin Nagant Rifle, indicates it is from a Remington manufactured rifle. Also Magazine also has the 'R' in a circle stamp as well (they are faint due to the pitting) which would also make it a Remington magazine. No parts of the rifle have any force matching which I find weird as most countries liked to force match. So this is a lightly Finned rifle? I would have thought they would have made more changes/markings on it.
Also the cleaning rod that came with it is likely not a Mosin Nagant cleaning rod, it is 28 inches long with a smooth head (not Knarled or with lines cut in it).
Unfortunately here in Canada this rifle is not a antique even though the receiver is dated 1898 (which sucks but what can you do).
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It isn't an antique, but you can buy cheap SVT 40s.
If it isn't a Finn (someone replaced the rear sight leaf with a Finn part) I'd suggest it may be Spanish. The Tula star would be fine as the SCW time frame for Soviet support was '36 to '38. I'm still betting on Finn ownership, but more pictures would help. Front sight blade?
Last edited by Homer2; 08-31-2014 at 12:36 PM.
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That rear sight plate alignment seems to be pulling your shots to the right. It looks a little more crude than a normal Finn plate rear sight as well. The Finn versions were originally for the M28, but it seems they were occasionally used as replacements for M91s as well. I'd call this one an unknown origin, leaning toward Finn owned. Just in case, I'd leave the initials on the stock alone as they may have been put there while in service. Kind of a personal touch to the history of the rifle.
Here is a link to a not-so-recent discussion on my 1926.
The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum View topic - Finn 1926 Tula M91
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I am leaving it all original (at least how I got it). Thanks for the input, it has been greatly appreciated. Also nice 1926 M91
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Something I'm noticing is that there are no refurb markings (at least none I see jumping out). With the hodge podge of parts, that may indicate the Finns had it at some point, as well.
Regardless, it's a nice one!
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Well looking at it I am leaning towards a Finnish Capture as well. The Rear sight is really decisive (as they were the only ones to do that). Other than that the lack of refurbishment, initials scrawled into it, and lack of import marks also leans towards a Finnish Capture (as they surplused there rifles in the 1950's before the stupid import mark requirements).
Either way, this rifle has certainly got that been there and done that feel, I mean it could have potentially been through a lot and it is definitely a keeper (with my poor shooting abilities it shoots pretty good and it almosts completes my Soviet Collection).
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