+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13

Thread: Parker Hale 1200TX marked Palma Trophy Match 1969

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    BlackPowderBurner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Last On
    01-18-2017 @ 10:50 PM
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    2
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    06:13 PM

    Parker Hale 1200TX marked Palma Trophy Match 1969

    I recently picked up this rifle, a Parker Hale 1200 TX. I haven't had the luxury of shooting it yet (the road to my range has 4 feet of snow on it). My research on this rifle has been yielding very little information so I'm hoping you smart cookies can help me out, what exactly do I have here? Is this a military rifle? The roll mark "Palma Trophy Match 1969" has not appeared in any photographs of other rifles that I've found. What do you all think this is worth? It came with the two medals pictured, a couple commercial Parker Hale cleaning rods and a M1950 paratrooper rifle drop bag. Thanks



    I've also posted this thread in the milsurp section of CGN for those folks feeling deja vu
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Contributing Member CINDERS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 10:37 AM
    Location
    South West Western Australia
    Posts
    7,956
    Real Name
    CINDERS
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    08:13 AM
    Nice pick up Gil Boyd is the go to man for the Parker Hales I have a 1200 Safari grade P H 22/250 with a Bartlein 1/12 TR 26" Brl they are an awesome piece of kit the action is way over the top for a 22/250 but I do not hesitate to have a go at crows out to 400-450m but that's the absolute limit in my mind. The rifle should be quite competitive as the stable mate I think submitted to the army for sniping was the M82 so Parker Hale have a good name for sturdiness and accuracy the only downer is it is controlled round feed so no dropping in a single like you can with a Rem-700.
    Last edited by CINDERS; 01-18-2017 at 11:21 PM.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    LondonEnfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Last On
    04-13-2019 @ 05:07 AM
    Location
    Have a guess...
    Posts
    31
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    01:13 AM
    Nothing special about the rifle, just a run-of-the-mill Parker-Hale 1200TX in factory standard condition with original barrel, although the Palma Match stamp is a unique touch. Nice medals though.

    What's the disc set into the butt say on it? That isn't a standard feature.

    The rearsight is a PH5E unit which is unique to the 1200TX thanks to its integral mounting block.

  6. #4
    Legacy Member limpetmine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 01:04 PM
    Location
    US of A
    Posts
    981
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    07:13 PM
    Nice rifle and great with the medals. Research the matches and see if you can find the shooter. I think the rifles were numbered to the participants. Been looking for one off and on. It's a neat little side road.

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,846
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    05:13 PM
    Shouldn't be too hard to find info on the gent named on the medal as it says he was the team adjutant.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  8. #6
    Legacy Member Frederick303's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last On
    07-28-2020 @ 09:41 PM
    Location
    Pipersville PA US
    Posts
    739
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    08:13 PM
    I have an interest in these. Could I ask what the serial number is , including the prefix (less the last serial digit)

    Does it have the magazine or the single shot set up?

    As for the background, they were bought for the 1969 Palma match in Canadaicon. The 1966 matches use an M14icon at Camp Perry, the 1967 matches used a No 4 in 7.62 NATO in Canada at Connaught, the 1968 used M70 Winchester rifles in the US of A and the 1970 matches were held in Englandicon and used the 7.62 Envoy (based on the No 4)

    In 1967 and 1969 used C21 ball ammo, which was a 146 grain bullet at around 2850 out of a 24 inch barrel, on a IVI case. The powder was similar to IMR 4475.

    The rifles were issued by lot to the various teams that came to shoot, and at the end of the matches to competitors were allowed to purchase their arms if they wanted.

  9. Thank You to Frederick303 For This Useful Post:


  10. #7
    Contributing Member Gil Boyd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Last On
    10-09-2024 @ 03:03 AM
    Location
    Home of The Parachute Regiment & 16 Air Assault Brigade
    Posts
    4,772
    Real Name
    Gil Boyd
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    01:13 AM
    Well if it helps, it is worth preserving as one of only a handful produced as Parker Hale 1200TX's inscribed with "Palma Trophy Match 1969" at 7.62 NATO level.

    Agreed there are hundreds of 1200TX's out there in a variety of conditions, but the rifle shown has certainly been well looked after and probably a tidy barrel to boot.

    My advice when these come along is to grip it with both hands, treasure the Britishicon Craftsmanship in a fine rifle in the knowledge that in another 10 years you will see where the value takes you!!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

  11. Thank You to Gil Boyd For This Useful Post:


  12. #8
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    10-20-2024 @ 05:01 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,569
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    01:13 AM
    Go through The Army List of 1969, both Canadianicon and Britishicon, and Capt or Major Dunlop will/should appear and that should start the history ball rolling

  13. #9
    Contributing Member CINDERS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 10:37 AM
    Location
    South West Western Australia
    Posts
    7,956
    Real Name
    CINDERS
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    08:13 AM
    I kept the chamber end and @12" of the original barrel from my PH 22/250 as the richness of the bluing they got I have not seen on the commercial rifles one buys today as I am only a sandwich shooter and cannot afford the caviar types some can like Holland & Hollands, Purdey & Rigby's whose bluing would perhaps be better but at a high price. Nope PH's were very nicely figured that way.

  14. Thank You to CINDERS For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    Legacy Member Peter5761's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Last On
    11-16-2020 @ 10:50 AM
    Location
    U.K.
    Posts
    10
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    01:13 AM
    I Have a 1200TX also,I use 308 win cases 158g heads and 38.1g N140 removed the horrible brown shiny stain and lacquer,Just finished it with Danishicon oil.
    Last edited by Peter5761; 09-02-2019 at 03:00 PM.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-05-2016, 10:56 AM
  2. Parker Hale 1200TX/M82 barrel profile
    By Macca in forum Parker Hale Rifles Sub-Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-29-2016, 09:33 PM
  3. Mummified South African Marked Parker-Hale Sight
    By 1srelluc in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-27-2013, 08:46 PM
  4. Union of South Africa marked Parker Hale 5A sight
    By Kiwi in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-15-2012, 11:52 PM
  5. Palma Match Enfield Envoy
    By Valleysniper in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-28-2011, 12:48 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts