M1 Carbine in Court

[Faulkner]

Anyone familiar with the .30 Court round and it's use?

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[jimb16]

Court, in this case means "short". The ammo maker is RWS.

[jimb16]

I probably should have mentioned that I believe that is the corrosive French ammo.

[John R.]

RWS "Sinoxid" is a well known GERMAN maker of NON-Mercuric/NON-corrosive primers and cartridge cases.

Short is KURZ in German,Corto in Italian and Spanish and court or courte in French.I have never heard of calling/designating .30M1 Carbine as .30 court but then the "Yurpeens" have been noted for doing odd(to our way of thinking at least) things before this.Looks like a .30 Carbine round to me but ??

To get around the "military calibre"restrictions in Belgium a gunsmith in Liege built a Rube Goldberg machine that shaved 1mm off the neck of LIVE M1 Carbine rounds and had his master gunsmith back off the chamber length by 1mm so it wouldn't chamber a standard .30M1 cartridge.He called this .30M1 SHORT and got away with it(circa 1977)

[Bruce McAskill]

I wonder if that is for the Iver Johnson carbines made for export to France in the early 1980's. By law in France they could not import a rifle that used military ammo so the carbine round was shortened by 0.100 as were the chambers in carbines exported to France. The "Special French Short" was born. I think Bill Ricca can add to this information.

[jimb16]

That is the cartridge that I was referring to. Many were corrosive, depending on the maker.

[Faulkner]

Thanks for the info guys. A neighbor passed away a while back and I have been helping the widow with some cleaning out of some of his things. Ran across about a hundred loose rounds of this .30 Court ammo in a small paper bag.