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    41 winchester

    ok I tried up on the appreasal board and did not get a response so I will try here I am looking at a 41 winchester it is all origianal except the buttstock, knobs on the rear sight and the gas cylinder he wants 2500 however the barrel is pitted would the pitted barrel be a deal killer? he will not come down on the price
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    The true collectors seem to value originality more than barrel condition because they aren't going to shoot them anyway. I personally want it shiney and bright so I could shoot it if I wish. Not that poor bores don't shoot, I just don't like them. But I only have two. One collector and one shooter. On the other hand the buttstock rear sight knobs and gas cylinder are going to cost you a LOT. I have a '41 SA and I wouldn't want to replace those parts.
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    I have some '41 Winchesters, need to have more details, part of the serial, type of cartouche. There were three cartouches used by WRA during 1941, early to mid 1941 rifles had alot of numbered parts too. Big question - is it annealed or not ? some have even had the logo engraved where it had worn down. alot of factors concerning this time period.

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    the buttstock is a WW11 replacement not WRA and no cartouches. what partys should be numbered

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    start with part of the serial number, example I have 102xxx or 128xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    start with part of the serial number, example I have 102xxx or 128xxx
    I also have a 41 winn and am wondering what stocks you have on yours ? Mine is a no trap door WB just one box

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    some no-trap WRA WB cartouche photos

    I also have some WRA WB no trap stocks (on rifles) too. The rebuild stamp is on a 1.26 mil from 1942 with the production trapdoor. Very few of the WRA WB production had the factory trapdoor

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    The buttstock and rear sight are two very rare and expensive parts on a '41 Winchester. Since the buttstock and rear sight are not original, and if I read it right, not even correct for a '41, I don't see how it would be worth $2500, especially with a pitted barrel and incorrect gas cylinder. It sounds like an incomplete restoration to me.

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    Rice, it is so difficult to place value on a rifle we can't see or even have the most rudimentary information on like serial number. If you can provide a few photos and the serial number or as Robert posted a partial serial number these guys will be able to pin it down for you. You've got the experts right here watching this thread. Good luck.
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    I talked to the owner today.The rear sight is a short pinion one knob is correct the other is incorrect with a lock bar. the serial dates to novemeber 1941, the barrel is frosted not pitted. he has a WRA numbered gas cylinder that by the book is 2 monthes to early for the receiver date that he will put on the gun. The butstock is a post war open box SA. all other parts are correct for the receiver serial date according to the owner who is very knowlegable on M1s I am going to look at it tonight. If I do buy it I would look for any WW11 cartouched butstock for it. I beleve that any WW11 butstock and the lock bar sight knob could be considered field replacements and i think a gas cylinder to months 2 early for the serial number could be plausable

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