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    Thumbs up Business end of a No.4 Rifle..!


    2 Britishicon Army Military Police are taking no chances, as they move Bergen Belsen Concentration camp commandant Josef Kramer .

    File:JosefKramerArrest.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Note the MP at the rear, his No.4 rifle at his shoulder, and without a doubt,..a Mk.7 .303 cartridge is in the chamber..or as the Brit's like to say.."Have one up the spout"..the MP at Kramer's side has his .38/200 revolver {either a Webley or Enfield} drawn and..ready... to deliver a "Double Tap", i thought this is a very "High Drama" photo
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    I would not have been so nice to him.

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    Josef Kramer's house at Belsen was still being used in the 1970's to house the guards and dogs for the ammunition compound for troops stationed at Hohne. Belsen was at the end of the Hohne Garrison with only a few fields segregating the two camps.

    Wednesday afternoons was always the Britishicon Armys sport afternoon and I would usually find myself running around the permiter of Belsen on our normal x cross country route, if you were fly enough you put a 10 DM note in your shorts and had a beer at the "Snake Pit" opposite the REME gates on the way back!
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    Yes...I bet Kramer would have rather taken the Mk 7 slug than find out what the so called 'liberators' had done to his country.... :-)

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    Of interest although off topic; the swimming pool in the garrison was built by the Canadians in the 1950's, it was over the road from the block that I lived in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangely Brown View Post
    Josef Kramer's house at Belsen was still being used in the 1970's to house the guards and dogs for the ammunition compound for troops stationed at Hohne. Belsen was at the end of the Hohne Garrison with only a few fields segregating the two camps.

    Wednesday afternoons was always the Britishicon Armys sport afternoon and I would usually find myself running around the permiter of Belsen on our normal x cross country route, if you were fly enough you put a 10 DM note in your shorts and had a beer at the "Snake Pit" opposite the REME gates on the way back!

    I would say that you were a very organized soldier..i would have done the same, ..

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    They both certainly mean business, both fingers are on triggers.

    Interesting to see that the pistol holster appears to be slung from the base of the ammo pouch. Never seen that way before. I have numerous web items, but none of the ammo pouches have any mounting strap for a holster. Anyone know about that?

    Is his lanyard affixed to his belt? Can't quite make out from the photo.

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    I have a rig with the holster hanging from the ammunition pouch.
    Photos follow.
    The pouch is Mills Equipment Company 1942---so it's not an off-brand.
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    Thanks Krinko, I'll keep an eye out for one like that.

    Photos much appreciated.

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