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    Interesting

    This pic surfaced on FB and I was looking at it identifying the various weapons held by the diggers, the usual No 1 MkIII's, Bren, and then I saw the compensator.
    Without looking much further I thought Thompson but looked harder as the weapon is blocked partially from view then you get to see the whole deal.
    What it appears to be is an Owen gun with a dirty great banana mag that nearly touches the compensator.
    Battle of Beaufort
    From the 26th to the 28th of June 1945, Australians of the 2/43rd and 2/32nd diggers pictured after the battle.




    I only have the book on the owen that covers certain issues at the time with its development and not the models and accruements.
    Anyone in the know can they enlighten us as to the fact that may was produced for the owen or its a forward workshops non standard thing.
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    Japaneseicon sub gun had a similar mag.

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    I think it is a late Japaneseicon Type 100 smg

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    Anything's possible seeing as there is a sword there and I gather that may be a Japaneseicon bayonet not a '07, but if you look closer you'll see that the weapon in question has a definite camo pattern on it and I have seen pics of owen's that have been camo'ed up by the troops. Is it a long stretch that the mag and the japs were using 9mm as well that it was a going thing to be able to use in the owen.

    I had a good look at the few pics in my book one shows a long compensator the other a smaller one but not detailed enough on the short one so I could count the flutes, however the mag release is prominent in my pic and this one and looks to be a 100% match for an owen.
    Found a pic of a type 100 don't look anything like the mag on top of the SMG in the pic.
    Thanks for the input gents so far we will find the answer I am sure there is enough knowledge on this site.
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    It’s an Owen sub machine gun and they are looking at a Japaneseicon sword

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    It is an Owen granted, but the focus of this thread about the picture is on the banana mag it has as all the ones I have seen pics of have it as a straight mag.

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    I looked at my book "the World's Submachine Guns" by Nelson & Lockhoven. The only very curved magazine that I found was
    from the Finnishicon Suomi Model 1926 SMG in 7,65 cal. The Japaneseicon were known to use 7,65mm SMG's (Swissicon & Germanicon) but
    really doubt they would have a Suomi model 1926 smg ?

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    It's a rare 50 or 60 or 100? round experimental mag for the Owen. I've seen one before in a book or online, but I can't find the 'proof'

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    It's a rare 50 or 60 or 100? round experimental mag for the Owen. I've seen one before in a book or online, but I can't find the 'proof'

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    Owen gun - Wikipedia

    "Two horseshoe magazines were constructed in the field, of 60 and 72 rounds. Little information exists as to the success of these experiments.[11]"

    11. "History of the Owen Machine Carbine (OMC)". diggerhistory.info. Archived from the original on 13 March 2011

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