No4MkI/2(T)

**Lee Enfield** · 12-04-2006 02:56 PM

There is an Indian No4MkI/2(T) on www.joesalter.com which I am interested in seeing what you pick up on.

What do you see? As opposed to what you read in Item # 2502

http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-14.jpg

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**Cantom** · 12-04-2006 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

There is an Indian No4MkI/2(T) on www.joesalter.com which I am interested in seeing what you pick up on.

What do you see? As opposed to what you read in Item # 2502

http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-14.jpg

I'm probably missing something, but what a beautiful rifle!

**Badger** · 12-05-2006 07:13 AM

Great thread to learn from....

Thanks Darren ...

Regards,
Badger

**Lee Enfield** · 12-05-2006 07:05 PM

Anyone?
I'll be missing lot's if I try to point them out myself....

This is the give-away picture:
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-22.jpg

**Oatmeal Savage** · 12-05-2006 07:32 PM

I don't know enough about sniper rifles or LE's in general to make an informed opinion. I guess I will have to wait for the "reveal".

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

Anyone?
I'll be missing lot's if I try to point them out myself....

This is the give-away picture:
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-22.jpg

**Cantom** · 12-05-2006 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Enfield

Anyone?
I'll be missing lot's if I try to point them out myself....

This is the give-away picture:
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-22.jpg

Hmmm, let me guess then...Sarco mount, wrong scope, scope's in backwards, it's a .22 single shot DP Sepoy mutiny rifle...need I guess more??

**Claven2** · 12-05-2006 08:16 PM

Hmm... welll some old pitting on the mount is scrubbed and it's reblued, but than again, the Indians could have done that. The stock is Brit beech and looks too good to be true and there's no ishie screw. I rather suspect the wood was added in the states.

The stake marks on the mount pads don't line up with the original stake points in the screws, but again the Indians could have recycled the pads off another rifle - who knows?

The bolt handle definitely looks scrubbed. Again, could be an idian renumbered bolt (probably).

The two knobs front and back for the mount seem to have different lines per inch checkering - maybe one is a repro? The rear one also looks a smidge thicker and the spring washer looks to be made of some flimsy thin material compared to the real one behind the front know which also has worn checkering compared to what I suspect to be a repro rear knob. Look in this pic to see what I mean:

I'm sure there's more wrong with it, but it's late and I'm tired

**Lee Enfield** · 12-05-2006 08:23 PM

You'se harsh....

To start:
The rifle is described as: "rare Indian converted" It's not. It was converted to "T" status by H&H (along with 25k+ others). The inspection mark at the bottom right rear of the receiver is the give-away. This is the "fabled" D6E marking.
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-22.jpg

As to where it was converted to Mk1/2 status? There is a lot of "anecdotal evidence" which suggests that the Indians converted a lot of No4s to 1/2 & 1/3 status.

According to Laidler icon

there was a move to convert snipers to Mk1/2 status, but it ended by the mid 60s. I don't think this gun would have required FR by the Indians in '63 if the Brits had just rebuilt it themselves.
http://photos.joesalter.com/2502/2502-31.jpg

**Stevo** · 12-05-2006 09:52 PM

What does "D6E" signify?

**Lee Enfield** · 12-06-2006 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Stevo

What does "D6E" signify?

Better pic from Badger's pics:
http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/brit...=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

A "crowned" D6E was one of the inspectors markings which is found on H&H converted snipers.

It is found in the illustrated position in the picture ONLY on snipers.

IIRC it does show up on other componants, but never in that position on non-snipers. (I'll check this & confirm per Laidler icon

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