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Inherited 1922 need help (Calling Herschel?)
OK So I'll do my best to keep this to the point. My grandfather passed down a 1922 to me, which I know nothing about. I'm a modern guns mostly rifle pistol. I've been researching this for 2 days and came across this forum (and Herschels name) a couple of times. I've included a bunch of pictures of what I think might be relevant.
This all started because this gun has a broken ejector. Looks like grandpa probably tried to TIG it once upon a time. In trying to find a new one, I've learned a little.
I think the pictures say everything. It was drilled for a scope as you can see, has checkered backstrap, no letter in serial number. I also need a magazine for this bad boy, but hear those are a bear to find (and expensive). I cannot seem to find any serial number markings on the bolt.
Here are the pics, Please tell me what I have!!!
OH PS. There is obviously some rust/oxidation build up, a bunch on the bolt, then a little on other metal parts, whats the best way to clean these up? I've only every used solvent and oil on new stuff, but i don't know if i should do something else with this.
Thank you all in advance for your help!!
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06-16-2013 09:09 PM
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whatgun, I don't check this forum every day so just found your post. As best I can read the receiver ring marking you have a Model of 1922. That is the first variation of which approx 2,200 were made. As far as I know, all the Model of 1922 Rifles came with the NRA (also known as 1922) stock. Your rifle is in the 1922M1 Issue Type stock. That would indicate it is a replacement, which is very commonly seen. The 1922 Model bolts were not serial numbered to the rifle. The bolts in the 1922 models had a twin striker firing pin. It will be readily seen on the front of the bolt. I need closeup and clear photos to tell you much about the rifle. Bolt parts are available, though expensive. Original magazines for the 1922M1 show up frequently on ebay and gunbroker. Expect to pay $100 to $150 for one. These will work in your rifle. The original magazines for the 1922 models are longer and very scarce. I saw one recently on one of the internet auctions with a starting bid of $450.00. I expect it to sell for that or more. If you elect go go with a 1922M1 magazine, which will work fine in your rifle, make sure you get one with the three little teeth on either side of the floorplate. The magazine should NOT be marked M2 on the top left side of the magazine. Those marked M2 are far a later variation and are not interchangeable with the 1922M1 and 1922 Models. Beware of the aftermarket magazines as they have a poor reputation for functioning. When your rifle came from Springfield Armory, the bolt well (round channel the bolt moves in) was in the white. If it is still in the white, the blue on the metal is probably original. The barrel date should be 23 or 24 if it is original to the rifle. The barrel date is behind the front sight. I don't mind sharing what I know with the forum but is easier for me to correspond via email. If you want to send more pictures or ask specific questions, my email address is hsgarner@tds.net. Rust can be removed by soaking the rusty spot in gun oil and rubbing across it with 0000 steel wool. Dry steel wool will remove the blue finish. Other people prefer different methods of removing rust. Until you decide how to remove the rust I suggest you just coat it in all or grease and leave it. Tell me if the bolt has twin strikers and if the bolt well is in the white. I can't tell if the scope block holes in the receiver are from SA or if they are aftermarket. There should be another set of scope block holes 7.2" forward on the barrel. You are fortunate to inherit a nice rifle that can be restored to original configuration.
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I have couple original spare M1 magazine for sale.
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Now it's my turn to apologize for the late response! My wife went into labor shortly after my original post so its been a busy household here the last couple weeks. Thank you for all your help! your post here and others helped me learn about this rifle. It does look like it has a double firing pin one on each end on the rim.
The barrel is marked 11-22? pic attached
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Sounds like while its a nice little gun, its not a super rare find (1 in 2200 with non original parts). I would like to bring this back up to a fun little shooting rifle. And it doesn't sound like a re-finish or anything along those lines would ruin a piece of history (my real fear).
Any idea where i could start finding that broken ejector? I did some googleing, only places i found are sold out.
Good to know I can use M1 mags. I don't think this rifle is a great candidate for a perfect historical restoration (non factory stock), so i think ill stick with M1 mags.
Thanks for tip on care and cleaning! any really good dis-assembly instructions/manual out there? if not anything non-intuitive i should be careful of?
Thanks again!
Oh and if there are any other photos I can take that might help identify let me know!
Last edited by whatgun; 06-30-2013 at 04:12 PM.
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Brandon, It is cumbersome for me to communicate via the forum. I provided my email address earlier. Please email me direct. I have some suggestions about the rifle. The stock on your rifle is a Springfield Armory product. You do have a pretty scarce rifle as most of them had the bolt replaced with the M2 type. I would not even consider having the gun refinished if it has the original blue. It is a piece of history and in my opinion should be preserved.
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Last edited by Herschel; 06-30-2013 at 04:42 PM.
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