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    Finally got shooting with a couple of N0. 5's

    I haven't posted in a while because I haven't been out shooting the military rifles in a very long time.

    I finally got out to the range last week with a few rounds for testing in a couple of Jungle Carbines with stock sights and my stock old eyes.

    Loaded up some Lyman 314299's from a mould I lapped and Beagled to get 0.305" nose and 0.315" body, and some boolits from a homemade mould that weigh in at 315 grs. Both lubed with LLA.

    Powders used were IMR 4198 @ 21.6 grs. (Lee dipper)
    IMR 4895 @ 32 grs. (Lee dipper)

    All topped off with COW.

    The 4198 loads were without gas check and the 4895 loads were with gas checks.

    Most groups were 2" +/- at 50 meters for both boolits with a few shots pulled due to shooter error (lack of practice).

    Best groups:

    - 4 shots in 1"x3/4" with a flier 1" out (likely pilot error); 4198 load under 314299; my gun
    - 4 shots in 1"x1": with a flier waaay out (? my son was shooting but I suspect he pulled it); 4895 under 314299; my son's gun

    25 to 30 rounds were shot through each gun and not one bit of leading.

    This wasn't a very organized or scientific outing but the loads show promise. I will do some more loading and take the chronograph next time.

    I haven't shot much in some time (at least rifle) so need the practice!

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    Sounds like fun. What is COW? How did you lap the mould?

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    COW - cream of wheat?
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    Yes, COW is Cream 'O Wheat.

    I tend to shoot plain base or ungaschecked gas check bullets because: a) I live in a small area where I cannot easily buy reloading components so less is more; b) I am a minimalist by nature so if I can get away without a gas check why not?; c) gas checks cost money.

    The COW filler helps to protect the bullet base and seal the bore.

    So far, I am not going to claim match winning accuracy but in general, groups with filler seem to be about the same size as groups without filler.

    Also, I like the idea of 100% loading density regardless of powder charge. You can't just go throwing a filler into any old load though, it has to be worked up because the filler not only adds to the mass being expelled from the barrel, the reduced volume in the cartridge will raise pressures.

    David Southall has a good article on: .303's and fillers on 303british.com

    and there is also a good article here: http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ller/index.asp

    I got no leading whatsoever with the loads using filler.

    Discussion of fillers seems to result in many polarized opinions. Some people swear they can cause ringed chambers and they may do if not properly used, I have had no problems and will keep using them.

    I slugged my barrel and found I had a groove diameter of 0.314"+ and my Lyman 314299 was casting at 0.312" diameter.

    I lapped by casting a few bullets, drilling the base and running a wood screw in then cutting off the head. A flat is filed on the lapping bullet and fine valve grinding compound or other abrasive compound put onto the flat then the bullet is clamped in the mould and rotated by hand or slowly in an electric drill. Since I have a two cavity mould I swap the bullet from cavity to cavity frequently to keep things even.

    After a bit of lapping I clean up the mould and cast more bullets which are now a little larger then do it all again until the cavities are the right size. In my case 0.305" nose and 0.315" body.

    The cavities do tend to get slightly oval ~ bigger at the seams ~ so you have to be careful. The undersized bullets did not shoot well at all while the lapped mould produces bullets that are doing quite nicely now.

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