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    New Argy 91

    I've always had a soft spot for the slim, elegant Argentineicon M1891 Mauser.

    I glommed this tonight at an on-line auction.



    description was a bit spare..
    1891 Mauser rifle. 7.65 cal. SN:A5181. Appears to have matching #s, unknown hand guard, polished top of receiver.

    Better pics and description when it arrives
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    Non-matching handgaurd on Argentine M1891 rifle

    The handguard looks like it was "recycled" from an 1891 Argentineicon cavalry or engineers carbine.
    With a bit of patience you should be able to find the right handguard, which has the same style - two rings for spring wire clips - but is, of course, somewhat longer.


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    Nice looking rifle. I too like the 91 argy. I passed on a complete matching lowe at a Saturday flea mkt for 150$ 2 years ago. I recently picked up one with the barrel cut to 23" and stock cut to just infront of the barrel band. Havent shot mine yet. Enjoy your rifle. fishn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    The handguard looks like it was "recycled" from an 1891 Argentineicon cavalry or engineers carbine.
    With a bit of patience you should be able to find the right handguard, which has the same style - two rings for spring wire clips - but is, of course, somewhat longer.

    Thanks, Patrick

    I've found a source for the longer handguards but am trying to resolve which is correct. I've seen some information that indicate that for the early 1891 Mausers, rifle or carbine, the short handguard is correct. Apparently the handguard was lengthened for later series. This rifle is an "A" series, which I presume makes it a fairly early manufacture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishn861 View Post
    Nice looking rifle. I too like the 91 argy. I passed on a complete matching lowe at a Saturday flea mkt for 150$ 2 years ago. I recently picked up one with the barrel cut to 23" and stock cut to just infront of the barrel band. Havent shot mine yet. Enjoy your rifle. fishn
    Thanks fishn.

    I just glommed a sported 1891 Argy that was paired with a Finnishicon Mosin M28 as part of a "two-fer" auction lot. I was planning on selling the sported Argy, but am not sure what they go for these days.

    Here's a pic of the "two-fer" lot


    Any thoughts about sported Argy 91 values, in light of your recent purchase, would be welcome.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfed View Post
    I've seen some information that indicate that for the early 1891 Mausers, rifle or carbine, the short handguard is correct.
    I was not aware of that, but looking again and comparing the handguard carefully with my Argentineicon "baby" Mauser, your information is obviously correct - there is more wood in front of the front wire than on the carbine. I would be grateful if you would cite the source of that information - Ball and Olson both show only 1891s with a handguard that reaches up to the barrel band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    I was not aware of that, but looking again and comparing the handguard carefully with my Argentineicon "baby" Mauser, your information is obviously correct - there is more wood in front of the front wire than on the carbine. I would be grateful if you would cite the source of that information - Ball and Olson both show only 1891s with a handguard that reaches up to the barrel band.

    Patrick
    I ran across this information from Colin Webster's Argentine Mauser book:




    Credit to "beanstrung", who posted the above here:
    Argentine Model 1891 - Proper Bolt and Stock Configuration?


    I'm not familiar with Webster's book, but it looks like it might be interesting for the Argentine Mauser aficionado.
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    I have seen the book in a catalog, but the price here is steep. Ah well! Another one for the "must have one day" list.


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    I did a little checking and apparently Argentineicon Mauser Rifles 1871-1959 is to Argentine Mausers what Crown Jewels is to Swedishicon Mausers

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    My Argy seems to have one foot in early and another in the late. I have the early model hand guard, with a late model bolt shroud. The rifle is all matching right down to the cleaning rod.
    The hand guard was attached with a couple of brads when I got it. I was fortunate in being able to separate it w/out doing much damage. The wire slots in the stock match those in the hand guard btw.

    Mine is an "M" series rifle. I know the handguard is out of position. I did not have it fastened when I took the pics and I hadn't noticed it had moved.
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    [quote=Calfed;162534]Any thoughts about sported Argy 91 values, in light of your recent purchase, would be welcome.

    Steve[/quote)
    Steve I got mine for $140 hope this helps

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