+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Questions about an unmarked I cut carbine stock.

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member lambo35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-09-2022 @ 02:47 AM
    Location
    Black Hills, SD., since 1998. Sun City AZ also.
    Posts
    53
    Real Name
    Chuck Lamb
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM

    Questions about an unmarked I cut carbine stock.

    Several years [1994] ago I bought [still have it] an SG carbine [3 mill 400K range] that has a very nice I cut High wood stock. It has a type two [2 rivet, wide groove] hand guard that is also very nice and has the same color and finish. There are no proofs or stamps on the outside of the stock and the stock shows no indication of sanding. It does have an upper case letter H on the bridge across the rear of the slide well, nothing anywhere else. The hand guard has the OI stamped on the usual place.
    Questions: Was somebody making new I cut stocks in the 1980-1990 time frame? Could this one be a left over from WW2? Could it be an Inland presentation stock [no proofs etc.]? My guess about it being from Inland stems from the letter H on the slide bridge. Hillerick [sp?] and Bradsby [Louisville Slugger fame] made stocks for Inland during the war. I have seen the H in other locations on other H/B Inland stocks.
    What are your thoughts, I welcome all theories.

    Many thanx, Chuck
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Legacy Member deldriver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Last On
    04-22-2024 @ 08:41 AM
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    446
    Real Name
    John
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    Sounds like Winchester possibly to me. With the bridge having a letter on it and not being marked in the slingwell, that is what I am guessing. A picture would help a lot if you could. As I am sure you already know, Winchester stocks had certain characteristics that made them easier to indentify in most cases. Of course there are other possibilities too.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Legacy Member jimb16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 07:30 PM
    Location
    N.E. Ohio
    Posts
    1,158
    Real Name
    James Barchok
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    I agree. We need pictures.
    When they tell you to behave, they always forget to specify whether to behave well or badly!

  6. #4
    Legacy Member Bruce McAskill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-17-2023 @ 09:10 PM
    Posts
    1,880
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    03:32 AM
    Yes new stocks were being made in that time frame. If it has not been sanded and there are no marking in the sling well then there is a good chance it was a newer made stock. But pictures of the stock would help for sure.

  7. #5
    Legacy Member lambo35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-09-2022 @ 02:47 AM
    Location
    Black Hills, SD., since 1998. Sun City AZ also.
    Posts
    53
    Real Name
    Chuck Lamb
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    Thread Starter
    The buttplate is the early Inland version. The wood behind the buttplate has the imprint of the diagonal diamonds. I couldn't easily remove it for a picture today [I didn't want to mess the wood up getting the plate off ], but the data sheet I did years ago notes the imprint. The type 2 recoil plate is very lightly stamped [?I], couldn't determine the first letter.
    Oh, the handguard is the narrow groove version, not the wide one as I stated in my initial post.
    Thanx guys, Chuck
    Last edited by lambo35; 05-30-2013 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Added info

  8. #6
    Legacy Member Bruce McAskill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-17-2023 @ 09:10 PM
    Posts
    1,880
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    03:32 AM
    To me it looks like it's one of the later made stocks. The recoil plate screw is from a Standard Products. But it is a pretty stock.

  9. #7
    Legacy Member jimb16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 07:30 PM
    Location
    N.E. Ohio
    Posts
    1,158
    Real Name
    James Barchok
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    The position of the H looks Winchester, but the stock shape seems wrong. I don't know what it is without more and better detailed pictures.
    When they tell you to behave, they always forget to specify whether to behave well or badly!

  10. #8
    Legacy Member lambo35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-09-2022 @ 02:47 AM
    Location
    Black Hills, SD., since 1998. Sun City AZ also.
    Posts
    53
    Real Name
    Chuck Lamb
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    Thread Starter
    jimb, what part of the stock would you like to see? It does not have the distinct flat forearm found on Winchester carbine stocks. The front band imprint is from a type 1 band, never had a type 2 or 3 band on it.

    Chuck
    Last edited by lambo35; 05-31-2013 at 08:02 PM.

  11. #9
    Legacy Member jimb16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 07:30 PM
    Location
    N.E. Ohio
    Posts
    1,158
    Real Name
    James Barchok
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    You mentioned a B marking, so that for a start. Also better pictures of the bottom of the foreend, the sling well and the wrist. Another thing that bothers me is the color of the wood. I shouldn't be that light unless it is sapwood. Also try to get a picture that clearly shows the wood grain. It seems a little too open for walnut.
    When they tell you to behave, they always forget to specify whether to behave well or badly!

  12. #10
    Legacy Member lambo35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-09-2022 @ 02:47 AM
    Location
    Black Hills, SD., since 1998. Sun City AZ also.
    Posts
    53
    Real Name
    Chuck Lamb
    Local Date
    06-14-2024
    Local Time
    04:32 AM
    Thread Starter
    Jimb, sorry, I forgot the wrist pic. The B that was mentioned in the first post, H/B =Hillerich and Bradsby. I just used those letters as an abbreviation, there is no B stamp, sorry for the confusion.

    Chuck
    Last edited by lambo35; 06-02-2013 at 03:14 PM.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Unmarked canvas carbine case?
    By drweiler in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 03-15-2013, 11:51 AM
  2. SG Stock Questions
    By Turkey Creek in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 04-24-2012, 10:47 AM
  3. A3 Stock Questions
    By Mike D in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-15-2010, 03:19 PM
  4. Unmarked Carbine Parts
    By Smokehouse69 in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-17-2010, 11:22 AM
  5. WRA unmarked Stock
    By shottist in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 12-05-2009, 01:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts