No4 Mk1* Stock questions

[Clintk]

So I have this 1944 Longbranch that has a matching bolt and receiver along with the correct barrel. I have zero issues with this gun being not shootable but I was wondering though, if a non-original stock/ butt stock could pose any issues towards accuracy of the gun. The stock and grooved forend are almost brand new (I bought it this way) and the buttstock is a different wood that is darker and polished with the number 13 (lucky me) on the left rear, almost as if it came off a drill rifle or something. Is there any known issues with non original stocks or can anyone please tell me where the heck this butt stock came from?

Any info is good info
Cheers

Clint

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[Peter Laidler]

What exactly are you asking us? If it's not shootable (line 2) then how can you have zeroing issues? I'm not sure if there are any registered clairvoyants on this site - certainly any that I know of, but that's what you need to answer the question about where the butt with a No13 painted on comes from. Because it has 13 painted on it doesn't mean that it's not an original

Or am I missing something?

[Clintk]

Peter,

Theres no need to be rude or sarcastic first off.
Second, I didn't mean it doesn't shoot. I am just wondering if there is any known issues with non-original stocks and why a buttstock would be lacquered and designated by a number. I understand b/c its numbered doesn't mean un-original. It just looks different than the entire gun i.e. wood color and finish.

[muffett.2008]

Pic's would help.

[Clintk]

The camera is out of commission at the moment

[No4Mk1(T)]

I’m not to sure I’d come down to hard on Peter here as the first time I read your question it sounded to me like you were saying “I have zero issues with this gun being not shootable”. Now that I’ve reread the question a few times I think I’m getting the drift of what your asking.

Is there any known issues with non original stocks?

This is a question that could take pages to answer and has been many, many times by many forum members including Peter. The short answer is yes. If a stock is not original to a rifle and not properly fitted it will negatively affect accuracy.

Can anyone please tell me where the heck this butt stock came from?

The short answer again is no. Especially without pictures. If I had to guess I’d say that ether:
A) Someone was in the process of refinishing the stock and sold the rifle before getting the whole job done.
B) Ether the butt stock or the forearm were damaged and replaced without attention to stock finish.
C) Or more likely the rifle was a sporter that was re-fitted with full wood to increase it’s resale value.

[C_Stockall]

hi just wondering if i could get some info on this gun where it came from how old it is ect anything would be great thx

ps there are some more markings on the barrel under the wood
i cant really make them out ill take more pics

[Peter Laidler]

Hey........... just a minute Clint and others! It's not a case of being obnoxious or sarcastic. Would it have made any difference if I'd just said '.....I would answer but I haven't got a clue what you're asking or even talking about...' No, it wouldn't, it'd have sounded just pig ignorant Instead I just took a more humourous line.

Anyway, I STILL don't know because you talk about a stock, then a butt then a fore-end, then a grooved fore-end which I take to be a rear handguard so what part of the stock, fore-end, butt or handguard do you initially mean. And a BUTT won't affect the rifle accuracy per se, but a badly fitting, loose or sloppy fit WILL affect the accuracy of the rifle simply because of the shooter trying to hold it won't be a stable influence on it.

Anyway, there, I've said my piece but this is a good example of and a reason to get the little SAIS book so at least we'll all know what part you're referring to..........

[jmoore]

hi just wondering if i could get some info on this gun where it came from how old it is ect anything would be great thx

ps there are some more markings on the barrel under the wood
i cant really make them out ill take more pics

It might be best to start your own thread. But it was made in 1943, posssibly February at Fazackerly.

[Clintk]

Sorry Peter, being from Texas I just dont take well to jokes sometimes haha but the SAIS book is en route so until then I cant say the exact parts to spec but i am going to take the gun to the gunsmith just to make sure everything gets squared away.

Thanks guys,
Clint